rheo
October 2006
wat team won this years s.a champs???nathan go look cuz it seems u have read wrong,stop blowing smoke up w.p ass they came 3rd
Jared HoustonOctober 2006hahaha..i would rather not comment on the whole ckzn winning sa champs thing,coz if everyone jumps on the bandwagon,but lets just say that there were a few very suspicious calls made throughout the event,an example being the daniel and philip issue,now we all know who the better rider is and who really made it trough that heat,but someone seemed to think otherwise and philip ended up in the final...hmmmmm...obviously there was alot more to that story but that was the basic outline,isnt there a rule against walking away with score sheets?
as for huh grant,he is a genuinely good ou,and yes most of his kicks do come out of teasing others but he is harmless so chill ous..but hugh,step out of line again an you know how we get you back..hahaha..
keep well all was great seeing yopu all at sas again was good times..and well done to ckzn, sort of......jokes..
KellyOctober 2006
badger03 wrote:
i would rather not comment on the whole ckzn winning sa champs thing,coz if everyone jumps on the bandwagon
And then he proceeds to comment ...
Seriously --- rather keep it to yourself than make yourself look like an idiot and your team look like bad losers. Did you really think it was wise submitting this post?
If WP sent a judge to SA champs then their judge is jointly responsible for the decisions made - your team appointed him and you should back him. If a team didn't send a judge then they have no room to complain at all as they were not willing to try contribute to a solution.
On that note, WP had their representative on the SABA committee too and I know WP always complain about the judging so your representative shoulders the blame for not taking any action on your teams behalf.
Judging bodyboarding is not as simple as a marathon where it is the first one across the line. It is always advised that riders learn to judge and if you do know how to judge then you will know that style plays no part in judging, so if it is a close heat then you may sit on the beach and think rider A won because he has a more fluid style but the guy judging has rider B winning according to the rules by which he judges.
Let Dan speak for himself because for all I know he probably accepts the decision whereas you guys here are just making him look like a poor loser. If he is as good as you say then he should be winning the heat and not fighting over 2/3 place - that has always been my view point. Dan, however, did not win one of his heats in the event and if you follow that then it is consistent to say that a semi-final result was a good result for him based on that form. Al Taylor & Sacha Specker were the only two guys in the final who had cleaned up all their heats and therefore in my opinion it is great to have one of them win as it does prove that the winner was a rider who performed throughout the champs.
There is absolutely no point in fuelling the fire ... apart from the fact that there is some serious lack of sportsmanship all round i.e. humble in victory, gracious in defeat seems a foreign concept to a lot of our riders ... all it takes is guys changing their mindset and becoming part of the solution --- with comments like this you are part of the problem and if any groms do look up to you, you are even more of a problem because you are setting a bad example.
There are a handful of people who contribute time, effort and their own money to bring you guys these events, however, there are few people which volunteer to help ease the workload and for every one of these guys putting anything in, there are countless voices complaining about anything they can rather than helping to bring better events.
Since so few are involved - please rather save your comment for something constructive and let them get on with their job.
Everyone is allowed their opinion but do you really think opinion like this is going to take us forward or backwards? How many complaints have you made in the last year instead of constructive suggestion?
john O'Sullivan Dwaala
October 2006
Well said..........
JdV
October 2006
Yeah,this whole thing is just stupid-we're just tearing ourselves apart from the inside.So one province won,one didn't-whatever.Someone got snaked-I guess these things happen-we all(including any judges who may biased) need to stop being so petty and just do things right and forget about our little egos and agendas.Lets look at ourselves as S.A bodyboarders-not seperate provinces,and stop this petty rivalry,not that competition isn't a good thing-it's what keeps us pushing the limits-but there's a difference between competitive spirit and cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Marthinus
October 2006
Kelly wrote:
if you do know how to judge then you will know that style plays no part in judging, so if it is a close heat then you may sit on the beach and think rider A won because he has a more fluid style but the guy judging has rider B winning according to the rules by which he judges.
What?! This is news to me.. For me personally style is everything.. How can style not play a part in judging a rider on wave?? Anyone can do an ARS for example but not everyone can execute it with a good clean style.. I think this is an issue that really need to be addressed by SABA..
JdV
October 2006
Yeah damn right-It really amazes me that in contests people can't seem to get over the 'grovelly,spin to win,ten lame moves on a waves' mentality which is so oblivously dead and only makes us look bad-style is everything!
Matthew
October 2006
yeah, style should play a part in the whole judging thing! after all, that`s gonna make bodyboarding look so much better towards the public. and I think we should all give our opinions on the state of judging, cause the bottom line is that, there is a problem with judging/judges in S.A. and we all deserve to be judge correctly, cause it`s us riders out there who paying contest fees and getting bias judging back. STOP PROTECTING ROSSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Matthew
October 2006
by the way, Nathan (Hugh Grant) is a legend! u ous must stop getting so affended, his just voicing his opinion and having a few laughs at the same time...
hugh grant
October 2006
[/quote] Seriously --- rather keep it to yourself than make yourself look like an idiot and your team look like bad losers. Did you really think it was wise submitting this post?--[/quote]
Housten was just submitting his views. us as fellow bodyboarders have to thicken our skin.. we have the right to express ourselves and share our viewpoint.. through difference there is unity!!
Too much, our sport revolves around competitions and teams, but we got to see the bigger picture.. as I read Mr. Houstens comment I see sour grapes, but no offense.. It was just to share his thoughts..
This forum was put up for brothers of the lifestyle to share their experiences and views, it is meant to bring us closer together!! maybe justice was served at S.A's, maybe it wasnt.. we have the right to speak or debate our viewpoints.. Too anybody who is not man(or woman) enough to take a little critism, they should grow up!!
Im just happy that more and more people are joining our sport nad that we are slowly gaining respect!! and to Mr(mathew) Botha.. I love you man!! haha!! awehness everyone
JdV
October 2006
And as far as the judging goes,all the guys in other provinces who reckon they're not getting fair treatment from ckzn judges are not alone-even if you're from ckzn if you're not part of a selected 'cool crew' it seems almost impossible to get a foot in.Like when you have one of the best heats of your life and the guy who only had one scoring wave in the heat but just happens to be 'in there' with the right people beats you,you just have to wonder.
And as far as people saying that phil rodrigues gets given favour,well phil,despite what you all think is actually kind of the dark horse of the ckzn team,and doesn't always get along with rossi very well,to say the least.He is,whether you like it or not,a very experienced competitor and also has some very valid points about the state of judging in this country.
rheo
October 2006
kelly you are absolutely write, the judges did a great job and it is not as easy as it seems.. i am not sticking up 4 anybody...but kelly is write and Dan is a big boy and has accepted the points the judges gave him and now it is time everyone else should 2... the pro final was fair and all the riders that were in the finals deserved 2 b there,and congrats 2 all winners and well done 2 all riders it was a great compo and im sure evrybody enjoyed it...thanks 2 the judges and bigger thanks 2 skzn 4 a GREAT COMP.....
rheo
October 2006
STYLE,the judges do look at style and wat u can do on certain waves,my opinion and is just mine,is that no riders that are riding in a comp may b a judge,and every province must have a few NON RIDING judges,so when S.A champs come again no-one can blame the judges,because every province has a judge in the tower....... wat u ppl think about that? just ask....
KellyOctober 2006 Hugh Grant/Nathan --- please read my last sentence ... everyone is entitled to their views and that is exactly why the forum is here. After the poor form at SA Champs by certain riders/teams this was my view which I too am entitled to share - as you so rightly point out. Just would appreciate if some guys would think before they speak out/hit submit in future. If the sixty40 forum does just turn into a tool to tear our sport to pieces then I'm not going to waste my time.
On criticism - there is a difference between constructive criticism (which is essential for progression) and just plain having a moan and inciting conflict.
Thick skin --- mostly I have just let it bounce off, but when all the hours of effort which you put in to try take the sport forwards can be undone by a few irresponsible comments then you do get a bit wound up. It is also all of our responsibility to say something when someone is out of line and as I stated this comment was just inciting conflict. It would probably have been entertaining seeing a backlash but what good would that do?
Marthinus - On style:
SABA Rule Book wrote:
M. (e) Criteria to be used in Judging:
"A bodyboarder must execute the most radical manoeuvres in the critical section of a wave, with the fluid linking and combination of manoeuvres, combining speed and power throughout. The bodyboarder who executes such manoeuvres on the biggest or best waves for the longest functional distance shall be deemed winner".
At no point is style mentioned. I'm not a judge, I'm not qualified and I'm no expert but as I understand it, this is because style is subjective - whether you agree is another issue but it would be a tough one to implement fairly. The rules do specifically read "
with the fluid linking and combination of manoeuvres, combining speed and power throughout" - someone with good style will meet this criteria, however, there are some riders who arguably don't have the best style who will also meet the criteria. For example, GT is one of the biggest chargers around with a few world titles under the belt but we don't give him minus points for not crossing his fins when busting out a huge forward air.
I would suggest that every rider familiarise themselves with the rules before entering any contest - if not, you're just handicapping yourself. The SABA Rule Book can be found on
http://www.sabaonline.co.za under the Library - the judging is covered in section M.
http://www.sixty40.co.za/saba/files/1/S ... 202006.pdf KellyOctober 2006
rheo wrote:
kelly you are absolutely write, the judges did a great job and it is not as easy as it seems
SABA has judging high on their agenda for the next year as it is obviously an issue which everyone would like to see improved.
SABA does need to get on the case and since they have stated that they are doing so then let's let them get on with the job - I'll try get them to give us an update down the line. But the provinces need to do their bit too as pitching up at SA Champs without a judge is a poor effort. And finally, the riders need to start accepting that for that 15/20 minutes in the water that maybe they were not the best rider out there --- 5 guys up in the tower reckon so and next time they'll just have to up their game.
Ian
October 2006
hey guys
On the whole judging thing...and iam probably going to get shot down for this by someone but i have my own views on this issue.
For SA Champs i feel that Judges from each province or from Any provinces should not be used. I dont see how any judge can know any of the riders or infact ride the contest himself..
I know the sport doesnt have alot of money to do much but i feel if we are crowning the SOUTH AFRICAN CHAMP we should use international judges or judges that dont know our currant circuit or SABA Title contender riders?
I mean we can start saying "ya, but then our local judges are selling themselves short if they judge unfairly and actually messing them selves up" Look at the International Contests, shark island, Pipe etc.. I think and im ready to be put in place...The judges are international and some dont even bodyboard!? At the pipline contest we dont see a judge going up to Damien King after his heat and saying " yeah man i think you made it"!!
I know what im saying mite not happen here but if we are looking at holding a International contest here next year we have to up our game.. If we do this the standard of bodyboarding in our country will jump in leaps and bounds...
hugh grant
October 2006
Wow, if this had been kept on the hugh-grant fan club we would have almost eight pages!! too true mr. Footit, you were voicing your opinion and Housten was voicing his!!
but not all critism can be kept positive.. "whining and moaning" is a vital part of development.. and as for our sport taking a step backwards due to negatism, that depends totally on the reciever!!
sometimes we voice the brutal truth, this offends many but if correct can be used to take a step forward.. the great patriachs of our time were all shunned and hated by their communities, but are looked upon as hero's nowdays..
Not with Housten on this one, but not against him either.. I suppose theres two sides to every story.. and style is everything!!!
john O'Sullivan Dwaala
October 2006
The best board riders have always come from free riding, what do the people think? Just because one wins a contest he or she has manage to package their riding into a stipulated time frame. Contests are taking place in the political environments of our sport so their will always be banter over who holds the power. On another note the older province guys seem to be able to handle the pill of defeat, the younger guys seem to be rushing hard all over the place, shame, maybe the younger W. province guys may come to realize that fun surrounding B.Boarding was thrown out by the desires to be noticed and sponsored. It doesn’t matter how many stickers u got on your board, like someone before me said IT ALL ABOUT THE STYLE and right now I can’t see one photo on this sight coming out of the W.province that displays this – I feel ashamed to surf with guys who lay down the lame claim, , I’d rather surf now with the beginners who stoke, is rather more authentic and that doesn’t comprise of self indulging prostitution, HO$H ja…….ahoy to the brothers abroad come back home, and bring some hypodermic so we can pop this shit……………………..self infatuation is the Tik of the cape town beaches, taking over our attitudes and leaving our sport angry and bitter, Suck on that sponsored bulb but it will blow up in you face, sorry to all those who read this for wasting your time, just voicing my concerns over the BOOGIE flavor that I am tasting down here in the South, 50 bucks Speck wins world games
Chinnychinchin
October 2006
Come on now people, lets be real, everyone knows Spex is the king of boogie no matter who wins!!!......if style is not a factor in judging.....that means Natal always wins cause they are the grovel masters....ha ha ha just kidding......You ou's are just lucky I don't come out of permantent retirement and clean up with my hand-drag spins....ha ha ha ha ha Well done to the champions....just don't rest on your laurels cause rivalry is a good breeding ground for the progression of our sport, which is a good thing, cause at the end of the day it's all about the boogie.......VIVA LA BOOGIE!!!!!!
hugh grant
October 2006
hear hear!! VIVA LA BOOGIE!!
Jared HoustonOctober 2006 my apologies kelly for speaking out without thinking..i still however believe thsat the standard of judgingin this country is not up too scratch and i agree with ians way of improving it..
i just find it a little bit weird how someone from ckzn always seemes to do well when the whole panel consists on central judges,however at last years sas it was very fair even split of judges and contoversy was kept to a bare minimum..
also no hit to skzn as i believe that wayne really put on an excellent sas this year,espiciually as he had to battle every element possible..well done..
and as far as contributing to the greater good,i and the wp were among the only bodyboarders at this years agm in which some very interesting points were raised and solutions were thought of.so its not actually like we just sit and complain and never speak out..
I never meant to agravate anyone and im sorry if i did but its just the way i feel and i also felt it was time to say something..
thanks.jared
rheo
October 2006
im glad everyone is voicing there opinions,all provinces have great riders, unlucky 4 houston this year but he is a great rider and i have great respect 4 him.... the judges are doing something about the problem and we thank them and i would like 2 wish all riders out their, 2 keep charging and busting
SmTOctober 2006Any further "Constructive" criticism or positive suggestions should be forwarded to your Provincial Chairman, they are the ones who can bring it up with SABA.
STOP with the politics on sixty40, can't we all just get along???
Spy Dude
October 2006
Bru.. this is what a forum is all about??? Its up to SABA and the chairmans of the provincial unions to be active, read the board, see how the blokes on the ground are thinking, and then take those thoughts forward and make judgements that way.
I think the ANC has proved to us that african democracy doesnt work, Go through the channels of power, WTF.. this isnt the army, its friggin bodyboarding.... freedom of speech.. thats what i say.
So, dudes, carry on voiceing your problems, better the whole world knows that SA's was a bit of a joke, than keeping it in house and covering it up..... whatever... like dwalla said, contests proove nothing.
I surf cos i enjoy it, not so that i can pat myself on the back cos i am better than you, based on the results of some contest. pfffffffff
ps as a ballie who only gets in the water every once in a while, i guess everyone can kick my ass in the water these days, but hey you know what, I DONT GIVE A SHIT!!!!
Cos you take away free debate and all we are left with on this forum is the hugh grant fan club and we are not going back there... mkay!
SmTOctober 2006 Thanks Spy Dude:
Quote:
So, dudes, carry on voiceing your problems, better the whole world knows that SA's was a bit of a joke, than keeping it in house and covering it up
That's a really good idea, we can sit back and wait for the International contests and Sponsors to just come pouring in!!!
Not once did I say anything about not voicing your opinions. Don't you think SABA would take more notice if people actually started getting on their backs directly, not sitting and bickering between each other on this forum?
Don't take the "lets sit back and hope they read our complaints" attitude, we might as well be Pro-active and force the issues onto them!
Everyone, carry on voicing your opinions, just send it to the people who can actually make a difference.
Can you make a difference Spy Dude by bitching on this forum? I know I can't, so i'm e-mailing SABA, so that they know exactly how I feel and can work towards a solution!
Everyone's here to support and promote Bodyboarding,
Stop the in-fighting!
Robert Gray
October 2006
Ya, like i'd like to start with Pierre, dude saying SA's was a joke and not even being there to witness the contest is weak! Poor.
You are more than welcome to comment on all these 'controvesial topics' you have such insight and knowledge on. Unfortunately SA's was not one of them.
Now, For the rest of you, I judged SA's as a non competitor and non affliated to any province. for anyone who thinks they can make a personal aqqusation s against the judges and not expext one of them to read and take offence, you are mistaken.
Before SA's, I was a friend to the whole bodyboarding community. W.P being some of my best allies and having some of my favorite riders. After the contest was done, 'few individuals' showed complete disrespect to all that saba has been trying to provide. And a attitude and goal to devide bodyboarders. Sure we all agreed that steps be put in place to improve the system, but this aside, I have come to see that just because we are all bodyboarders, doesn't make us all friends.
I would love to name the individuals who sulked and performed over sa's, cause they deserve to be disrespected as they have disrespected others, but this would be wrong. Just like all the judges desisions Hey?
Off to hawaii, over you ow's.
Sulk sulk. Whaa.javascript:emoticon(':cry:')
Crying or Very sad
Big shout out to Dre, Si, Domingo, jonny, j.p and Rory some of our sports true hero's.
Spy Dude
October 2006
ok rob.. its handbags at dawn then.......
hahahahha
chill amigo.
Ian had some valid points, please dont do a JZ on us.
rheo
October 2006
rob is right tho,and the judges did a great job and there is no point bitching and moaning sa's are over and u all gng 2 have 2 wait 4 next yr and prove that u were robbed but prove it in the water...... cheerz rob enjoy overseas man u will b missed
Spy Dude
October 2006
OK i appologise... i was typing without thinking based on what i heard and wasnt there to witness, sorry if i offended you okes in durbs.. eeeish sorry bru, SA's wasnt a joke and the best team won, just like the currie cup, my bad, ok...
I havnt bothered with compeditive bodyboarding since the last time province won the fishermans trophy, the only time province won the fishermans trophy.... does any one know when that was.. noddy badge to the first correct answer in this string..... hahhaha
so ya when it comes to contests i am no expert.
My point was more this...um
SABA should read this board, its here to serve a purpose, if its strings about good waves in mexico or okes bitching about the judges at SA's, its still serving a purpose, it is our community, a community that has too long been fragmented by small populations and large distances. Okes are speaking to one another, Rob i know you personally, i didnt know you were a judge, last i heard yo uwere chilling in CT with Dre, so fair game to your comments, seriously we can do handbags at dawn the next time your down here..ok
Sean i have never met you so i dont mean it personally, i was just voicing my opinion. Same as you, it what debate is made of, isnt it? Both you and Ian do have valid points and it is best to be proactive.
Chinnychinchin
October 2006
I agree with everyone......Spex is the king of boogie........ha ha ha .....I was nowhere near the SA's....but history has proven that where there's smoke there's fire......and it's def up to SABA to check/sort it out. But it's also up to us, who ARE the sport (cause without you and me, there would be no sport) to come up with solutions and get involved in the whole process. But one thing I def do see and hear is this....all the provinces have riders of a world-class standard, ALL the provinces and I just ask (from a non-competitors view-point), how come a particular province ALWAYS wins?.....Now don't get all worked up it's only a question not a personal attack.....do you ou's train harder? surf more? can you hold your breath longer? what is it....who knows? Cause ALL the ou's who surf for their provinces, worked hard to get there, and then to cough up the BIG moolah to travel thousands of K's only to be defeated in ALL the divisions.....that hurts pocket and pride.....and for the record, Al you're more than worthy to be champ, big respec for all you've done, and continue to do for SA BBing........VIVA LA BOOGIE!!
KellyOctober 2006 ... ja, guess there was only one way this issue was going. Anyway - enjoy boys.
Rob Gray - thanks for the post.
The joke for me was the poor form of some riders/individuals which all unfolded under our sponsors noses ... in some cases, guys who should know better. No one's left laughing - everyone loses and we make the job harder for the guys who are trying to secure decent sponsorships for our events. With the TV media which was secured, the event was set to be quite successful but this has all overshadowed it and I doubt the sponsors will be willing to inject more next year --- my line would be ... prove to me you're worth it before we throw money at you again.
I'm over this issue but just before even more guys jump on the "let's get international judges bandwagon" ... At International events you have judges from all over the world along with riders from all over the world meaning you will get riders and judges from the same countries. Scale it down and you get national champs where you are supposed to have judges from all over the country and riders from all over the country - it's exactly the same recipe. I'm sorry to say, but getting International judges in for a local competition is not a real solution - unless everyone is willing to give up all their prize money and then some.
I wasn't there to cast judgement on the judging but as SABA have stated, they are doing something about it. But I will stand here and say that I've seen my fair share of riders who are all to eager to cry about being cheated than to concede that maybe they were just beaten by the better rider on the day. It's poor form and if we just let them continue then we contribute to allowing this kind of pressure to be put on the judges --- do you think Rob will be keen on judging another event? Who wants to be a judge? Not many people do and if we carry on like this then we will lose any skilled judges which we have. Why can't we see this? We don't need international judges - we just need the system to work and the riders to stop crying cheat. It's effort from both sides - so it is also up to you guys to help contribute to a decent solution ... next time you enter a comp --- go hard out in the water, but try remember why you are a sponger. Bodyboarding grew from a small sport where most riders were buddies just because they owned a bodyboard --- don't be the one's to change that.
KellyOctober 2006
Chinnychinchin wrote:
how come a particular province ALWAYS wins?.
CKZN win because they have the stronger alround team - the last champs I was at in 2003, SKZN won more individual titles at North Beach than CKZN but CKZN won the team event. They are historically better competitors and have a better understanding of the rules.
If you're comparing guys in a free surf then there is a difference between free surfing and contest surfing. At events like the Cave Rock or if it happens to be in really good conditions then that changes slightly and the good free surfers e.g. one move on a wave guys will do better in the contest than in 3 foot mush.
Chinnychinchin
October 2006
Yip everyone, you heard it for the record right here on sixty40.co.za straight from Mr. Kelly himself......Natal win cause they are the kings of the compo grovel.....then North beach must be the HolyGrail of the Hand Drag....er I mean Hand Bag.....er thats not right, Big Bay is Grovel Central for sure....I know cause I'm always there groveling....HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....What were we talking about again? Oh ja Spex is the king of boogie......peace out, keep charging.....VIVA LA BOOGIE......
JdV
October 2006
Well while we're busy talking about what a queerass bunch of grovellers North Beach guys are lets not forget Oros and Rob Gray paddling out in almost darkness at 8-10 foot Uvongo at SA's,while most of the country's top riders sat on the beach.
Robert Gray
October 2006
Darryn Stephen
October 2006
My personal opinion on the reasons that CKZN has so many wins is because of the following:
1)Intimidation: No team can say they aren’t the slightest bit intimidated by a team that has so many victories.
2)Knowledge: The CKZN team knows what to do in the critical sections of the wave to score them the best points.
3)North Beach: North Beach can get all sorts of surf from mush to perfection for the guys to train in, on top of that it’s a ridiculously popular beach and hustling and wave selection is drilled into you from the get go.
4)Durban Surf: Durban Surf is competitive, I have worked with and interviewed some Pro surfers and they moved to Durban because it lifts their game in surfing from the level of competition seen in the area.
5)Training: I am definitely not saying the other guys aren’t training, but I have seen the CKZN team train and it can be pretty serious stuff. I think it’s definitely a benefit having so many top competitors coming from the CKZN that can mentor the younger guys and each other to try and better themselves.
That’s my personal opinion on the matter of why CKZN are as good as they are, but I think with the WP team and their schools league they will be the ones to watch out for in the future.
KellyOctober 2006 Chinnychinchin/Brian --- thanks for the baited question bru - I'll be sure to watch out for those in future. As for the hand drags ... 4 sure - bring them back to level the playing field ... grovelling was so much easier when I used to hand drag ...
Rest of the provinces --- train harder and whatever you do, learn the rules. Get your guys on judging courses - I believe Rossi is doing the rounds over the next year so learn everything you can from him when he is there and don't let other provinces have one up on you for not doing your homework. There were some teams who definitely could have done better this year.
Anyway ... World Games on ... WP, CKZN & SC representing ... let's rather focus on something other than flogging this dead donkey. Hopefully your boy Spex did his time at Big Bay and you taught him how to grovel good because the Games start on Sunday at Huntington Beach which is forecast as 1-2 ft until Friday I think, peaking chest high on Saturday with the Games starting Sunday. Let's hope there is swell on the way!
Spy Dude
October 2006
i skim its cos the durban crew eat more banannas that the rest of us.
hahhahhaha
Robbery.. enjoy the big island amigo, go large and bust like only you know how.
peace.
Spy Dude
October 2006
What ever happend to ASRO? i was a ASRO judge once... i thought it was the best system as we were a crew that worked surf compos, booger compos, kneeboarding compos... heck i even judged a goatboat contest once
hahhaha
Whati am trying to say that was a good system as no one belonged to one specific sport, you had surfers doing booger contests and vice verca.
KellyOctober 2006 Ja bru - I remember from my days. I was thinking along the same lines and asked SABA to look into ASRO a few days ago.
SAL
October 2006
just to clear up all confusion about the phillip daniel heat.
Firstly - this was a totalising error - their total scores drew so the totalisors had to do a knock out using the plus / minus system. As you can well imagine those of you who have spent hours in the heat and elements adding numbers for days on end this can happen and that is why the scores are put up for the riders to check. This was an innocent mistake and it has been blown up out of proportion without any of you taking the time to get to know the facts. Why dont you all spend all this energy on something more positive and build the sport - I dont recall many or any of you guys actually thanking the totalisors at any time for the tedious horrible job that they did, all I do recall is a couple of you guys running riot on the beach trying to boycott the event on the one day that we had huge media present - how typically short sighted!
JdV
October 2006
Well being a kid I've honestly never heard of ASRO before,so there could be some aspects to it that I'm missing,but the one problem which immediately occured to me was that,how can a kneeboarder or surfer judge a bodyboarding contest and vice versa?I mean it's hard to judge the level of difficulty of a move or even know what looks good in a sport you've never participated in.
Jared HoustonOctober 2006 to jason..yeah max respect too oros and rob for paddling out on that massive day..made the rest of us look like girls..haha..
to rob..you are right and i am sorry if i offended you,some of my best mates are onh that judging panel and we always give themm grief but kinda just playing but this time i reckon it got taken too far.
To sally,thanks for clearing up what actually happened,i did not see it that way so i apologise for mouthing off when i had gotten the wrong story from others involved in the incident.
i still however think that dodgy calls do go down and at the saba meeting rossi said he would be eddressing this in the gap between next years contests so at least it should get better,oh yeah i wasnt moaning on here for my own sake as i got knocked fair and sqaure i surfed like a knob in my semi and got rewarded with a tird in that heat and the other guys judt idid better so congrats to them..but none of you can deny the fact some times some guys get completely shafted and thats what makes people wonder..
but i do apologise for causing the song and dance i did,but dan is still the best and he proved it overseas..oh yeah,i just wanna say a big well done to rat for taking the juniors,that ou is so underground he killed every heat he surfed and was defintly the deserving winner,al taylor too..the finals were excellent and excellently judged aswell..
Darryn Stephen
October 2006
Whats done is done at SA champs...so thats that.
Lets look forward to the World games, does anyody now if they will have a webcam up or anything so that we have some way of checking out the action or way of being updated of whats going on?
Shot
Matthew
October 2006
yeah, i didn`t mean to offended okes, but u ckzn guys get worked up for no reason, i thought u okes will really laid-back. i`ve got nothing against u ckzn okes (i`m from the durban area originally...)
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, wat u can't possible be threatened,haha. 
wat bodyboarding needs is 4 all provinces 2 get invoid, making bodyboarding a growing sport,and contests bigger and better. even though ckzn will never lose 
,though this year was a little close