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Music for Lines of Fire...

  • BB4life
    November 2005
    Ahoy guys,

    I was just wondering what the music for lines of fire is gonna be like?
    Im always watching these sweet movies with really awesome footage but the music slightly kills it...

    Colin nailed it on the head with Probe .life with a really good selection. Damn I cant wait for probe 2...

    Yeah anyways just wondering cos you say the dvd is coming end of the year and man o man I cant wait

    Later

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  • DarkhorseDarkhorse
    November 2005
    ya im also im the same boat!

    peter u must egt some paht punk as vibes.
    fast and heavy!
    please no hipitty hop vibes. that always gets a bit much!!

    frikin heavy daze man!!
    let us know,
    ya!! amped!1 haha
  • Peter Lambert
    November 2005
    Hi Guys,

    If anyone has any suggestions regarding music for Lines of Fire, I am all ears, but I would need more specifics, like the Artist, Album, and Song name... we have about 6 tracks so far that are being used, but we need about another six... We obviously don't want to use any tracks that have been used in any other DVD's but other than that, if it can be edited to nicely, it can be used. Let the suggestions start pouring in!!!

    Peter
  • BB4life
    November 2005
    ok now that you mention it hehehe...

    HOAX - Majority Rules; Try to explain; Apathetic, Trust me > http://www.hoax.co.za
    Hog Hoggidy Hog - Incident; The Great Escape; Great Heart > http://www.hoghoggidyhog.com
    LP Show - FUPC; soso > http://www.lpshow.co.za
    Neshamah - Five fingers down > http://www.purevolume.com/neshamah
    Fuzigish - Secret Police; Bombs Away; Untied & Divided > http://www.fuzigish.com

    All these bands are South African, which is really cool if you have a local dvd WITH local music dont you think? :P

    All these songs are top quality recordings and you get the albums off all these band's websites top stuff trust me... :D

    Later
  • Martin
    November 2005
    I am sure peter will put on sick music on the dvd...no doubt

    PUnk can get but to much if you know what i mean...

    As for hip hop well listen to NO Friends 8 Rizing sons its sick!!!!!!!!! LOVE IT so much!! check that bonus section just for the song.

    Well peter I know a local band that has quite a sick song that I ll give you if you want to listen to it don't know if it will fit with bodyboarding though...

    But I ll speak to you soon

    later martin
  • ^_^
    November 2005
    Tonight We Die - FFF
    download: http://www.audiostreet.net/artist.aspx?artistid=1048

    there site - http://www.tonightwedie.com

    hows about some dashboard conffesional? :wink:
  • DarkhorseDarkhorse
    November 2005
    no please no dashboard no that band can get hectically iritating!

    but ya, some phat ass pennywise, that doesn t get too much good old school style like the old bboarding vids, those are the classics i still watch!

    but ya theyre a real hard band to get hold of, u wont manage i dpubt, i tried but failed!

    im gonna think of some sikones,also in terms of the band letting u use them!
    there a couple out there, fuzigish are lank sick to edit to actually peter. kiff stroong bewats and stuff!
    but please there old stuff,new stuff gets a bit much!
    but ya check them out, then hogs, ag i dunno even though sick, from an editiors perspective they are hard to edit to!
    dunno why!
    they rule though, maybe one or two of there tracks.
    u wanna stick with the staright rise against type of sound!

    anythign that suits the waves! mellow acoustic vibes to fast ass frikin drums and metal vibes! but ag whatever

    as long as its not annoying whiny boring or justcrap!

    peace, love and phat tonnels!
  • Spy Dude
    November 2005
    G.w Bush is a fool, america is sooo last centuary.
    For a local production all i ask is local music all the way..... forget yank crap, let them use it in their own productions.
    Why copy america, they do not lead by example, even tutu doesnt understand them.
    Bru if you kwaito i will be more stoked that if you used some over paid yank band who will most proberbly end upi sueing you for using their music.
    Plush, tree 66, sons of trout, lithium, .... we have such a huge variaty of local talent in this country,
    dude i will even use cool afrikaans music, just go to stellenbosh and check out some of those bands.
    Ju

    This is my opinion, no reason to get your panties ina knot.
  • BB4life
    November 2005
    nooit bru dont go with tree63??? psssshhhhh

    i rate if you wanna go the mellow root rather add some "bed on bricks"
  • Mark
    November 2005
    -Rise Against
    -AFI
    -Hog Hoggidy Hogs (their older stuff is quite good for bodybording,mellow and will fit with lifestyle sections or wateva ive used it a few times)
    -Killswitch engage

    PLease no HIP HOP!!
  • Martin
    November 2005
    Yes tree63, Sons of trout (their new band is bed on bricks if you son't know that by now)

    Delta blue???

    Well defnitially INCUBUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :wink: :wink:

    later

    martin
  • DarkhorseDarkhorse
    November 2005
    no please no!

    tree63 wouldnt work in my opinion!

    flip if the bands are good, sa or american or indonesian, who cares, if teh band is good then put them in!

    it turns out that alot of american bands are actually lank good and churn out some good music.
    now i bet im gonna get all thsoe lame comments about supportign sa music!

    frikin ehck i'll support anything that sounds good!
    sa, aus, american, norwegian, who cares!


    im wioth that due from strand on his music, well some of it!

    get tonneled! bye
  • TAMEGA
    November 2005
    Tree63 Definately - you cannot undermine the fact that these guys started in lil churches around durban and now nearly 8 years down the road have had 2 No 1's in SA and have signed with BMG over in america, And why? because they have variety and cater for a mass of people. lets be honest and say that ther music is not going to appeal to everyone like hip hop doesnt appeal to me, nothing against it just not my bag :), would also like to see at least 1 old song in there - Depeche Mode worked well in No Friends Paul Roach's section.

    Also i vote for the Shnappi song if there is a Eat it section - Schnappi - Das Keline Krokodil ( dont know if user rights applly or not )

    My say anyways :)
    Tam
  • Martin
    November 2005
    support SA bands :lol: :lol:

    jip as long as they are good.

    check the wimpy ad its tree63 playing their song just for those who did'nt know...

    later

    martin
  • Matthew
    November 2005
    put this song on, it`ll be a sick song for a bb dvd section:

    song: bodies
    band: smashing pumpkins
    album: mellon chollie and the infinite sadness.

    i reckon alternative rock bands should be used. i dig punk bands, but there`s way too much on bb dvd section. have more variety.
  • Jared HoustonJared Houston
    November 2005
    tamega!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!whereyou bin homie..missed your comments man,how legend is that shnappie song..

    some good clean cut comedy,i reckon stuff like the used,billy talent,thrice and others is the way too go..

    peter is on it though,,he knows what works and what doesnt..this dvd is gonna b the bees knees ous..peter,kev,jared,you ous are such legends..

    jared :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
  • Spy Dude
    November 2005
    Um... ok dudes listen up, you cant just use music like smashing pumkins, depeshe mode and any other BIG international band, why..well becaue of copyright law, those bands or their record companies will sue the pants off peter. Even local music needs permission, some of them want bucks, it all depends on who they are, but the norm is no one works for free and well its good buisness to pay for it.
  • kas24*
    November 2005
    spy dudes right, u cant just use their music, there all struggling now cos of all the peer to peer programs that are stealing their tunes, so they'll probably want money.

    neway, who eva is making the vid should use funeral for a friend, they got some really good tunes, clean stuff, a bit rough on the edges, but still lank good.

    cheers ou'ens
  • SmTSmT
    November 2005
    You guys are squabbling over the music, do you honestly think Chris White has gone out and got the rights for EVERY song on 9 Tension Vids???
    There's NO way a local producer can go out and get the rights from any international Group and actually afford it???
    Do you think that half of those record companies have even heard of Bodyboarding?
    I know it would be better for all involved to actually go out and try get those rights but it's just not feasible? :?
    :?:
  • DarkhorseDarkhorse
    November 2005
    ya finally someone talking sense. this is so stupid, dont even bother about getting the record labels rights. dude, they wont care even if they find it on a bodybaording vid!

    its not as if its on mtv or sumthing!

    seriously dont stress. imean look at no friends vids as wel! flip they never got rights to use all that stuff!

    ag just throw music in and see what happens! haha nothing to stress over!
    i did it and ive ahd no probelms!

    if the label whnes at ll, send them a free dvd, they'll be amped and im aure they'll deserve it!

    ag whatever
  • Spy Dude
    November 2005
    dude, do you know how much i have lost out on in my photography by putting free images up on this site..... no one will by a print off me cos they already have one saved on their PC, buti dont mind i have dont it for the good of the sport. Some people on care about the buck s and NEVER give back to the community that helped them achieve where they are in life today.. just look at our government.
    Why do you think you dont see ANY of DOUG COCKWELLS WORK or CALEB BERGVELDS work on this site.. ok doug has a few photos but they wernt placed there by himself. They dont want people stealing their work.
    Same as in music. Firstly there is loads of good local music avalible in SA, it is a SA production and why must most saffas be utter sheep and follow what america (who have saddly lost the plot in regards to all aspects of civilised life) or Austalia who just copy america anyway, only do it a little better.
    My point was just for LOF to make their movie 110% south african, fuck it i cant help i am proud to be an evolved Saffa. And by supporting local bands and their music you are supporting your country. So you can take your smashing pumpkins and shove it upi your ass.
  • BB4life
    November 2005
    jeez man just chill!

    over half of those songs i said were downloadable FROM THE BANDS WEBSITE

    jeeeeeez
  • Spy Dude
    November 2005
    jack, i am chilled bru.. no stress.
    Peter can use anything he wants, its his movie. I was just adding my 2 cents worth.
    Thats the joy of being a saffa, we can debate any topic and still laugh about it afterwards.
    Bummer we didnt get the rugga world cup.........
  • Martin
    November 2005
    Agree with spy dude but dissagree aswell.

    Srew the international bands don't pay them...they have enough non of the music on nf is paid for they some times does'nt even know the real name of the band.

    And for Sa bands if I had a band I would give my sond for free becuase i get reconition in this way...

    well suit your selfs i know its gonno be the sickest dvd, ever.

    later

    (sssssssssssee u at caves jared???)

    :lol: :lol:
  • JmoJmo
    November 2005
    Guys,

    As always, everything comes down to one thing: Buckazoids!

    You can't build a successful operation on illegal activities, such as piracy.
    You can't license big band music, local or international, with out bucks.
    You don't get bucks without advertising support.
    You don't get advertising if you can't offer big sales.
    You can't get the sales if the okes out there don't buy the vid, or just pirate the copies that do get sold.

    So it really is all in the hands of the industry boys and all you boogers out there who want to see more videos being made.

    Be accountable...

    Jmo
  • Spy Dude
    November 2005
    either way local music will be cheaper than international... and are you guys 100%, Absolutly willing to stand up in court, sure, that surf DVD's like NF and tention have just used the music without paying for it. ???? Do you know this for a fact. !!! Cos if not, in my opinion is that they have aquired some form of rights or permission to use the work. Those DVD's are international brands bru, very unlikely that they just used the music sommer net so. Peter if you have questions speak to willi rabie about this isuue, was round his place last night checking the stuff he is doing for H2bSquare (hankus is gonna be on TV kids) and he is using kickass, rocking local unknown hip hop that blew my mind. He also recons NF must have aquired atleast permission to use those songs. so ya.. again just my 2 cents worth.

    Have you guys ever heard of xaiver rudd, from a nobody aussie hillbilly muso to international rock star touring with jack johnson.. all thanks to a surf movie. Nice hey.
  • jbs
    November 2005
    Fact : Stoker and Chris White didnt get ANY rights for the songs they used.

    Heres some info..."Music that has been recorded and issued on CD is protected by 2 copyrights. To use a recording of a musical composition in your work, you need to get permission from both copyright holders.
    The first permission you need is from the music’s publisher.

    The second permission is for the recording itself. To get this, you would approach the record company that released the recording. The record company holds the copyright for the actual performance of the song captured and mastered on tape and released on CD.

    Q: What licenses do I need?
    A: You need a Synchronization License to use music in your media project. This license is issued from the music publisher.The Synchronization License
    gives you the right to “synchronize” the copyrighted music with your images and dialogue. In our case, video footage of bodyboarding.

    Here's the tricky bit...having a sync license means you have permission from the publisher to use the music but it doesn’t give you the right to use a specific recording of the composition. For that you need a Master Use License. This license is issued directly from the record company. Fees can range from a few thousand dollars to millions of dollars depending on the popularity of the music.

    Then say for example you want to you want to edit the song, maybe cut off the beginning 30 secs and maybe have a few parts during the song where you fade out the song completely in order to incorporate some backround talking, eg. someone hooting their mate into a fat barrel.
    You then need written permission to alter the composition!!!

    Humour me for a second....
    Chris White : "Hi is that the Sony big-wig?"
    Sony 'Big-Wig' : "Yes it's me"
    CW : "Hi, my names Chris, im currently producing a bodyboarding
    video, I'm using a song by Queen/Toto/Jurassic5, and I
    would just like to know whether its possible to cut out the
    middle piece of the composition in order to incorporate the
    throwing of shit/puking/swearing, which I believe will enhance
    the nature of the video?"
    SBW: "Um...sure buddy,why not!"

    Somehow i doubt it...

    As regards whether the music should be local or international, I say whatever the editor personally thinks sounds the best and gets everyone the most amped, that should be used.

    We should'nt discriminate against bands just because they're American...shame :wink:
  • Spy Dude
    November 2005
    ok so in therory Stoker is lining himself up for a lawsuit then.
  • puku
    November 2005
    man jbs you know your shit man.local,american,australian wtf who cares?if it sounds good use it.LOF is gonna be sick brotherins.WOOT
  • puku
    November 2005
    Spy Dude you tune Hankus is gonna be on t.V?sweet.is he gonna be talking about bodyboarding or bodyboarding or both?(stupid question?).ja anyways,wanna see it
  • jbs
    November 2005
    Well not really, it's pretty much inconsequential at this stage in our industry due to its pretty small size. Sony/BMG etc dont want to waste their time/money to go after some little fish for maybe a few thousand $'s. Whats the point when their global revenue is exceeding hundreds of millions of dollars. Our production run is not big enough to warrant a threat to them.
  • puku
    November 2005
    just wondering, whats the music for the pull the plug like?
  • jbs
    November 2005
    Get a copy and see :)
  • SmTSmT
    November 2005
    I'm pretty sure Stoker and Chris White don't get FULL permission to use all the songs in their vids, I mean think about how many songs there are?
    Obviously there may be a couple bands that they know and can ask them but not every single one?
    I don't think Stoker goes out and uses a song with the thought of "YAY, I feel like getting into a lawsuit today"
    Once again, it's just not feasible, especially from the local side!
    I've heard stories of local Surf Vid producers wanting to use a clip of a local Kwaito/HipHop artist, only to be told it would cost in the region of R10 000!!!!!!
    Like JAred said, personal preference leads to what music will be in the DVD!
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