Bodyboarding DVD's

bboard1
July 2008
I was just watchin a coupleof my DVD's and i noticed one major difference between bodyboarding and surfing DVD's. In the surfing ones they tend to show more of the wave from take off to end. In the bodyboarding ones its normally just the section with the biggest barrel or best manouvre. I'm not trying to complain but does anyone think they'de prefer to see more complete waves or am i just wierd. Also if you know some movies like this, please tell me so i can make a plan to watch them. Shot oes

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puku
July 2008
You just weird bru.
The way I see it bodyboarding DVD's have far more action to be packed into the same amount of space. Would you rather see Australians you've never heard of doing massive airs and getting pitted as deep as possible over heaving ledges or every wave a pro rides from the moment he starts paddling to the moment he's made his last move?
Surfing on the other hand can put as many cutbacks in a vid as they want but there is a limit as to how many cutbacks a person can watch before they become paralyzed with boredom, having to wait for their fingernails to get long enough to turn the TV off from where they're sitting on the couch. Sooo to stop this from happening the vid makers would rather show a highly paid pro from the moment he's paddling for it until the moment he's finished his last...cutback.
Alot of the surfing vids are pretty mad and they doing some crazy shit but most of it is fucking boring by now. How many times have you seen some dude doing a poo-man through the barrel past the cameraman in SLOW-MO.
Don't worry about it dude...being weird isn't that bad
Jmo
July 2008
Hahaha, Puku you crack me up.

Bboard1 - I reckon its also a lot to do with the type of waves that bodyboarders tend to ride, or at least the type of waves that the top guys are riding to get good footage. Keeping in mind that good bodyboarding footage is different to good surfing footage, so we get to watch a lot of shorter and more intense waves with heavy drops, technical riding skills and boostable sections. I'll happily watch a surfer screaming down the line at Jbay, or get tubed for 30 seconds at Superbank, hell I even get a kick out of watching Endless Summer 1 where the okes are noseriding 2ft foamballs. But in a booger flick I want to see some nutjob airdrop into a mental wedging Cyclops monster thats breaking over 2 inches of water and get blown out in a cloud of spit 2 seconds later. Watching a bodyboarder pump down the line at Jbay, get barreled at Superbank or riding 2ft foamballs for that matter, is just not that entertaining.
There is a grey area where both sports shine in the same arena (Pipe, Chopes & Shipsterns come to mind) but boogers are generally pushing in a different direction to surfers hence the different footage and different video edits...
Spy Dude
July 2008
I have actually raised the same point after every movie that i watch, i have also stated that it is that simple thing over over editing and the loss of the wave to the manover that turn non surf people off bodyboarding movies, Operation 7 is the sickest BBing flick... why cos they show the okes actually riding the wave and not a movie of the ever cliche: "death metal soundtrack, air, roll, ars, invert, tube, another tube... did he make, we dunno cos the editor cut to an revo, then another invert, someones dog, bush diving (????) tube, revo, spin, foward air, firecrackers in a car park, forward air"

Bodyboaring movies on the whole are interesting for about 10 minutes, after that i am getting restless.

Ps i have a good collection of bbing films, surfing, snowboarding, FMX, wakeboarding, Mountain biking and skateboarding. BBing editors still have ALOT to learn.

Now lets wait for the budget complaints to start....
There is no budget to unimaginative, un inovative editing!
lyle
July 2008
to answer the question: " would you prefer to see a pro ride a wave from begining to end or a bunch of boosts??"

well ja, boosts are awsome, but i want to see how boogers ride a wave! thats where i get my stoke- by riding a wave. the dudes who pull into cyclops are mental and it will make a good +-15min part in a movie. but the rest id like to see guys riding waves. thats just me.
Chinnychinchin
July 2008
Totally agree. They lurv editing DK to pieces, it drives me mad. Seen WAAAAYYYY too many Roach floaters and esp airs with no ending, it's just wrong I tell you!!!!
I enjoyed the editing in the local vid, The Southern Most Hope cause a couple of times if the dude was just going down the line they fastforwarded it, then slowed it back down for the boost. At least it shows that the whole wave was ridden.
craigtrilivas
July 2008
Ja i agree to a degree hey.
Like i loved to watch skippy from start to finish cos he was sooper stylish and used every wave to the max.
Even if it was just a looong tuberide.
Yes they do edit alot of the stuff now and ur seeing many cut short floaters etc cos the okes probably didnt stick it.
But regardless the boots r from the best and theyr rad so im for it all really, but sum more lenght of wave would be cool too
ronald911
July 2008

Chinnychinchin wrote:
Totally agree. They lurv editing DK to pieces, it drives me mad. Seen WAAAAYYYY too many Roach floaters and esp airs with no ending, it's just wrong I tell you!!!!
I enjoyed the editing in the local vid, The Southern Most Hope cause a couple of times if the dude was just going down the line they fastforwarded it, then slowed it back down for the boost. At least it shows that the whole wave was ridden.

The Southern Most Hope really is a good local DVD, along with pull the plug and the project.
morrisminor
July 2008
Ja...considered this before......especially as a grom.......it is really cool (not to mention instructive) to examine details of different riders styles. You can learn a lot more, as well as be more entertained (personally) by looking at the way that riders combine their moves, flow from move to move and utilise sections.

I remember this vid :'the hollywood bubblegum Reunion Challenge', (olodoldold) in which entire waves were documented during contests, and to this day it remains one of my favorite vids.The fact is that most subjects of DVDs today are stylish, accomplished riders, and a lot of the skills that can be passed on, and funkier variations on the norm, are skipped over in preference for the second that they bust.
July 2008
Ok hears the answer you are looking for i think...

Goto Factory7 and order a copy of ROAM !!!

Insane movie with pretty much every wave from the paddle / drop in till the finish... you wont be dissapointed

oh and the thing ive noticed with bodyboarding movies is that is has a bunch of dudes filming and then not having the creativity / editing skills to execute and package it all up...

some of my favourite movies are skateboarding flicks cause the ways its been pieced together...very simple, very creative and very effective
Spy Dude
July 2008
So there we have it Kids, general consensus on this forum is that:
1) Bodyboaridng DVDs on th emajority lack creative editing and storyline
2) People want to see more of the wave and less of the one off move
3) and on a personal note -- i am so over death metal soundtracks, bring the kurt darren
Kelly
July 2008

Mark Clark wrote:
oh and the thing ive noticed with bodyboarding movies is that is has a bunch of dudes filming and then not having the creativity / editing skills to execute and package it all up...

I think we are seeing a slight shift happening here where guys are recognising that they need to get a professional editor on board. We saw this with PTP2 and credit to them for investing in some good editing skills because the DVD is doing quite well internationally with distribution in Aus, Europe and USA where it is receiving good reviews.

Here's one from SpongerCity.com - http://spongercity.com/global/?p=294:

Sponger City wrote:
One of the first 100% South African DVD we got to review. Definitely worth it ! The video showcases the South African talents and spots and also trips to Hawaii and around South Africa. Read the rest of the review below.

Pull the Plug 2 is quite long and full of action with heaps of good riders from South Africa + Aussies and a couple more stars like Hubb etc. in Hawaii. The video has a pretty diverse soundtrack that matched the moods and riders pretty well, it’s got tons of different waves and spots that we’re not used to see on videos and tons of good riders that arent necessarily known worldwide but rip like crazy.

There's funny little skits in between sections and the editing and titles are good and simple. The quality of the video comes from the diversity of the spots and sessions. It definitely made us wanna got surf. The wavehouse sections are pretty amazing and some of the riders must have broken bones on that thing hey ! Good footage from Alistair Taylor, Botha and all the SA rippers. Lots of DK also in the video which was great. The quality of the footage is good, there’s no fuzzy / blurry / shitty images, it's all clean and good.
Elianderthehateful
July 2008

Quote:
and on a personal note -- i am so over death metal soundtracks, bring the kurt darren

Don't you think that Dresden Dolls song on one of the DVD previews was just the best song to ever put on a segment of bbing!!!???

Also No Friends 2 with all the classic 70's rock tunes was a great innovation. No Friends tend to use some cool tunes ( not that I've watched a bbing movie in ages)

I must agree that Death Metal was kinda funny in the beginning in wipe out segments and when people started first surfing siff slabs, but now that's the norm and really boring. Where's the skill in showing a wave spit as the Death Metal singer bellows out last nights TV dinner?

I think stuff like Nine Inch Nails, Dressden Dolls and some trance / techno and even EBM stuff needs to be explored from an editing point of view. The music isn't always positive (and I know that the whole freakin bbing industry has adopted this colgate smile Positive Mental Attitude approach to life), but the rythms and beats of the music has sooooo much potential.

I would also actually like to see a Black metal song on a segment. You know, something by Dimmu Borgir or Satyricon (I recommend K.I.N.G) etc...

Fuck even that "Push it, Push it, Watch me Work It, I'm Perfect" song by Princess Superstar would be brilliant.

But I think many editors just follow MTV music trends to an extent. Whatever's popular in the "underground" scene gets the nod.

Fuck I swear if somebody puts Nickleback on a DVD I will kak in my panties!!!
Jmo
July 2008
Admittedly I don't watch that many bodyboarding flicks these days, but out of interest I watched Tension 10 on the train this morning and I think its pretty much everything you guys are talking about. Full length wave shots, top boogering skills, alternative soundtrack (hell, this one has Shakira on the Hardy section), creative & quality cinematography angles, a storyline (in so much as scenes/props were planned, set up, filmed and mixed into the movie) and its a damn good laugh too.
Having said that, I do agree that pro editing makes the vid stand out, as with PTP2.

My all time favourite flick is probably still RAW, sick footage, sick tunes, sick edit.
Spy Dude
July 2008
No friends soundtracks rock.
But on local productions i would dig to hear local bands and more afrikaans (with subtitles) It adds to the uniqueness of us as Frikkin Proud South Africans, not some wanna be americans.
Thats why i loved Alan Robs DVDs, all local music and so us! Ya nee. (ps i are a soutie if any of yous ous are mos wondering)
Elementree
July 2008

Jmo wrote:
My all time favourite flick is probably still RAW, sick footage, sick tunes, sick edit.

Now there's a film!

First Boogie vid i ever bought - still have it on VHS and it works like a charm.

That scene where Mike Stewart is chatting to the tourist about the giant fruit cracks me up!

and that opening scene...sick waves, sick song and superbly edited even down to the last rider exiting the barrel at Pipe and flopping around on his board in sync with the end of the song - excellent stuff!
bboard1
July 2008
Shot Okes.I know what you mean about the editing. I went to both the PTP2 and Roam premiers and own the DVD's. Both are top notch (Roam's a bit repetitve though) Another great DVD is the Project and a bonus is it's local.
I would definately like to see more of the international riders style but this is hampered by the editing.
On the music side i once say a Skipp section (I think) and the track was Zombie by the Cranberries and it was Kief. any 80's or 90's would be great
JAMES bye
July 2008
i also own both Roam and Pull the Plug 2.... dig them both.... another rad SA vid is Hollow Cast by vivid zeal... its just a pitty it was a bit over eddited and only has the trick....

Oh well still keen for Pull the Plug 3
bboard1
July 2008
shot, They better have another premier at Imax though
July 2008
Gareth,

You stil got RAW on you? Misplaced all my oldies like RAW, Underground (most of the series, like Lines of Fire, Seek & Destroy etc etc) and the others like Contortion, Warped et!! So bummmmed

If you ever in Brandon Fosters house, now hes got the ultimate old school collection, VERY IMPRESSIVE!! All the oldest orginials you can think..

wander why they dont reproduce them onto DVD for release again? I would love to know how to get my hands on those movies again

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