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  • Randomjoe
    July 2008
    Why is there such a big hipe on one rider all the time?
    is'nt there more than one pro in SouthAfrica?
    the problem i have is that our mags are starting to get like the old school mags where the whole bloody mag only is about one olke and how great he is??????

    tel me im not the only one who thinks that giving all credit to one rider, almost making him untouchable, is wrong????
    Please Bodyboarding is more a life style and much deeper than that, to Standups maybe it seems right but not Bodyboarders mate's!!!

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  • July 2008
    Ahhh Randomjoe....

    1) is this a dummy account or you a new user cause says you created your account today or you just wanting to to stay anonymous?

    2) Who is this Pro Rider you are talking about? Which Pro rider / Hype about all the time?

    3) Im seenig various owes from all over SA appearing in the sixty40 mag since it started out a year ago, which is really great cause its covering more of the coastlines. The old SA Bodyboarding mags only had a handful or riders and to get into it you had to be part of the crew or someone special. This new mag is very open and loads of new riders appearing there all the time

    4) You seemed very bummed about one rider for some reason?! Why dont you name him then and yourself as i dont think everyone else is onto what you are about or your guessing games?

    5) If you havent realised the mag is composed by any good shots that get sent it. So if as long as there is a good image of a rider (also meaning it has quality) then you will more then likely see it in the mag, simple as that. The problem is that most of the bodyboarders complain and get all stupid about it not realising that a) they are not taking / arranging photogs to shoot. or b) they are happy to ride and what not but couldnt care less about working with the photogs. SA is not like the NorthShore where every wave is a front cover!! So you need to work closely with photogs to get the shots not just do as you wish ;) I shoot loads of water and owes are all kiff someones shooting water and what not which is cool, but then they dont care and just paddle over hear, paddle over there etc...shooting water is so soo hard to do and can probably say theres a handful of people who have tried and know how hard it is!! So myself personally if you dont work with me on a shoot etc i dont shoot you as you would be wasting my time and i could be scoring the same barrels. I enjoy shooting definitely but also love scoring the waves!! So if bodyboarders attitudes change then the photogs couldnt care less and less shots for the mag etc.. simple :)

    6) Hope this makes sense and if you feel so strongly about it you can come forward about how you are / where you from etc... cause all the latest forms are about trying to get riders and photogs to work together if you havent noticed...

    7) if you can personally say you are working with photogs really well and pushing yourself in the water and great shots are being submitted in good time then YES i would say you should complain and take it up...if not until then would really like to know what all your fuss is about?

    8) cool beans, looking forward to seeing your response
  • dcmike
    July 2008
    Hmmm - Let's see now...
    The last posts on this site were about McCarthy, Player, Vaughn Harris, Chrizzle and an all local Wedge Classic (known and unknown riders).
    Sixty40 1 : RandomJoe 0
    The Mag
    Issue 5 has Wes on the cover - Why? Cos he's killing it and it's a sick shot (just check how many positive reader comments came from that...
    Sixty40 2 : RandomJoe 0
    Hawaii feature - Well, those are the okes that were there so that's the way the cookie crumbles.
    Sixty40 3 : RandomJoe 0
    MosselBay Crew - Need I say more?
    4 : 3
    Specker - Yeah he's getting quite a bit of coverage but until someone can beat him that's not going to change - Catch him if you can!
    5 : 3
    So there we have it RJ - in a nutshell. If you still have issue, please let us know what could be done to appease and please you.
    six love
    Peace

  • July 2008
    wow mike! im speechless ;) yes its blunt but to the point! if you not out there, pushing your name, the name of the sport, not getting the coverage then what more can you expect?

    myself as a photog when i go shoot i normally just go shoot random places that are cooking... so if you are there then you get some shots. most of my work isnt pre-arranged :)
  • KellyKelly
    July 2008
    One thing in life is certain ... you will not please everyone all of the time. But if I can speak on behalf of everyone involved with sixty40, we do try keep our readers happy - without you guys we would not sell mags. Our goal is to cover as broad a spectrum as possible while at the same time helping to take the both the sport forward and our brand forward and ensure that both have a future.

    The most important point Mark raises:
    Mark Clark wrote:
    5) The problem is that most of the bodyboarders complain and get all stupid about it not realising that a) they are not taking / arranging photogs to shoot. or b) they are happy to ride and what not but couldn't care less about working with the photogs.

    Good shots do not magically happen and takes a lot of hard work between both rider and photographer. If the rider is not putting in the effort then there will be no shots. EVEN if the guys are hitting the North Shore of Hawaii --- if the guys are only prepared to surf dawnies or when the light is poor and therefore less crowds then there won't be good quality shots and they will have wasted their money, if their aim was to get coverage.

    Randomjoe --- if you are one of these riders --- and there are a whole lot who we wish we could run good shots of --- then get your act together and find a good photographer and start getting quality shots in to us.

    As it stands there are only a few riders in SA who I reckon are putting in the effort. And believe me - I was one of the guys who thought that if I was good enough then I would get the coverage - plain and simply, it does not work like that and I learnt the hard way. So anyone reading - take some advice and do something about it before you become a "has been".
  • ElementreeElementree
    July 2008
    One rider getting all the coverage?

    From a news writers perspective.

    Firstly the story has to be current - something that has happened recently.

    Secondly the story has to be of newsworthy importance eg...Mark McCarthy finishing 3rd at Shark Island, Wes Fischer winning the No6 Trials etc...

    Thirdly when it comes to getting coverage in newspapers everything depends on the quality of photo's submitted with the write up. If the photo isn't top-notch they couldn't be bothered. So i have to echo what Mark Clark has said in some respects. Recently i covered The Wedge Classic in Plett. The Pro Division was won by Vaughn Harris, a flipping good rider who deserved to get credit for his accomplishments. Harris won the Pro final with a solid backflip, which he performed going right at The Wedge. Now The Wedge is a left and hence all the photographers were positioned to capture images of the guys going left and none, to the best of my knowledge, managed to snap a cracker shot of Vaughn's flip.

    So i was kind of stuck with no solid shots of Vaughn from the comp - i was bleak - but was on a tight deadline to get news of the event into the papers so i had to go with a story that had sick photo's attached with which i could "market" the article to the press. I chose to run one story covering Spex and his win in the DK division as well as the Expression Session (from which i had some sick shots!)

    Yes there are many Pro's in SA all busting a gut in order to progress as riders, but the media isn't interested in who finished 5th - they want to know who won and they want to see a photo of a visually spectacular nature to run with the results.

    If you feel in anyway hard done by...swing me a Private Message and we can have a chat about organising you or someone you know some coverage - provided you have super shots with which to sell the story to the newspapers. If you have that i can do my best to distribute.

    Cheers
    Gareth White.

    Sad...but media in general is about sensationalism.
  • Spy Dude
    July 2008
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  • Spy Dude
    July 2008
    This is an article off 24.com
    Its called http://www.yousuck#$%^&*.co.za?
    the Author is Chris McEvoy and he totally rocks.
    I feel this is very relevent to the topic above.

    http://www.24.com/entertainment/default.aspx?p=feature&i=919517

    One of the best things about the internet is that it offers almost instant freedom of expression. If you have something to say, the internet, unlike the print media with its pesky editors, is here to be your virtual soap box.

    This is also one of the worst things about the internet, because freedom of expression is one of the most undeserved human rights there is. As a godless, queer-loving socialist, I would never question anyone’s right to electricity, education, pornography or even rugby, if you want to be a weirdo. But expressing an opinion in a public forum? Much like becoming a parent, this is something that should require a license.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the world is full of morons with nothing to say, and now, thanks to the internet, they have a place to say it. And boy, do they ever. Websites filled with hatred, stupidity and illiteracy are mere mouse clicks away. As an aside, have you ever noticed that the more right wing a website is, the worse its design? Check out the multitudinous anti-South African sites filled to the rim with “gatvol” fascists who are so stupid even Australia won’t allow them to immigrate, and you’ll see what I mean. These people have absolutely no sense of aesthetics. But that’s what happens when you don’t have any homosexual friends.

    Even worse though, are hate-fuelled anonymous comments dumped onto well-populated websites, much like this one. All the writers here are constantly subjected to a barrage of verbal assaults from online bullies who take themselves way too seriously. My personal favorite is the individual who wrote that they wished I would contract HIV and die. Why? Because I wrote a negative review of the movie Borat. If you’re an optimist who believes that people are intrinsically good, it’s comments like these that could change your world view forever. Or at least make you think that, if you’re a fan of Sasha Baron Cohen, you might be in bad company.
    "My personal favorite is the individual who wrote that they wished I would contract HIV and die."But I’m sure that if I had to meet these abusers in real life, they’d be perfectly decent people, who wouldn’t dream of saying things like that to someone in the same room as them. If I had to actually confront one of the many faceless users who have told me variously to get a life, curl up and die, or that I’m probably a virgin writing “bad journalism” from my mother’s basement (I love that one!), I’m sure they’d be embarrassed, or at least apologetic. This is because most individuals, although stupid, aren’t really horrible. We’re a gregarious lot, and despite our differences, on the whole, we treat our species with respect. We see each other as actual human beings, with families, friends and feelings, and we recognise our own humanity in their eyes.

    But on the internet, everything changes. This is partly because of the anonymity, but mostly because of a misplaced sense of entitlement. My theory is that people subconsciously think they own the internet – that everything on their screen is somehow theirs. So naturally, when they read my communist agitprop, they feel invaded, as if an unwelcome stranger has invaded their private space, insulted their spouse and slapped their mother. They don’t realise that although they may be sitting behind their desks, in their personal space, they’re actually in a public, densely populated world, talking to real people. So they act as if the world is their own, as if everyone else is just an icon or a prop – and behave badly.

    It’s exactly this dynamic that causes road rage. Because drivers are in their own cars, which they paid for with their hard earned money, they feel that anyone who cuts in front of them, or causes them to apply the breaks ever so slightly, has intruded on their property. In a sense, all drivers feel like they own the road, and everyone else is trespassing, and if they get in our faces they’re just asking to be beaten to death with whatever sports equipment we happen to have lying on the back seat.

    We don’t act like this when we realise we’re in public – which is a shame, because we often let people get away with murder. Like the people who stand in front of banking machines, staring at their receipt, working out their budget for the rest of the year in their evil, cruel little brains, while the growing queue behind them stands waiting, silently fuming. Or jerks who answer their cellphones in cinemas. Or how about the anally retentive fools who waste valuable minutes of your life counting small change when paying for groceries? These people are far more offensive than anyone on the road who makes you slow down for a fraction of a second, or has a different world view on the internet.

    Perhaps we’re too lenient. The next time someone wastes your time in a queue, perhaps you could apply what you’ve learnt through road or cyber rage. Stand really close behind them and flash a torch in their ear until they get a message. Or you could just write them a note telling them that they should get a life and move out of their mother’s basement. Because we all know how effective that can be.

    - Chris McEvoy
  • Chinnychinchin
    July 2008
    The answer to this question is simple......we all suck. If we didn't suck those that DID suck would be in the mag.........think about that one.....ha ha ha. If I could bust backflips at Shark Island I'd be famous too....but I can't so I'm not.
    So from the Chin-man:- big-up-RESPECT goes out to those that boost big, the ou's that can and do win contests DK and prone and to you ou's involved with sixty40 that are keeping the boogie-stoke alive. Prop's to you all.

    Peace.....and remember to subcribe to the mag.
  • Chinnychinchin
    July 2008
    And one more BIG RESPECT goes out to all the other ou's that are trying to make a living out of this industry, they're the ones who are actually "keeping it real".
  • bboard1
    July 2008
    watsup guys, those replies were great and that article is soo true.
    I just wanted to say that that Random Joe oke is probably feelin like such a toss round about now.
  • ColinvanDongen
    July 2008
    Yo 6040

    Just to let you know I'm superstoked with the mag.. You guys are doing a great job, Keeping the Sport alive.. Rockon Ian, Sampi Kelly rest of the Crew and all the photogs.
    You are always gonna get a plonker that moans about something.. I think that all the guys that are headlining the mag deserve the coverage, deserve to be on the world Tour and deserve to be sponsored.. I want to see more of them.

    All the best
    Dontstopdreaming
    Colin van Dongen
  • MichelleDaniels
    July 2008
    ColinvanDongen wrote:
    Yo 6040

    Just to let you know I'm superstoked with the mag.. You guys are doing a great job, Keeping the Sport alive.. Rockon Ian, Sampi Kelly rest of the Crew and all the photogs.
    You are always gonna get a plonker that moans about something.. I think that all the guys that are headlining the mag deserve the coverage, deserve to be on the world Tour and deserve to be sponsored.. I want to see more of them.

    All the best
    Dontstopdreaming
    Colin van Dongen

    I "SECOND" your stoke, commending the staff and the mag Colin!

    As a long time subscriber/reader of several mags, I must say SIXTY40 BODYBOARDING Magazine is at the
    very top of my list of favorites!! Since I live in the U.S.A. I receive mine slightly later than most of you all, HOWEVER,
    this last, "Birthday Issue"(CONGRATULATIONS!!) arrived only a little over a week after all the hype on here!!
    I SO enjoy the articles, very PROFESSIONAL photography, interviews and just the right, small amount of adds. Loved Josh Kleve's, very informative, Hawaii article with some, super, "informative tips" on "Dollar versus Rand" to other's who are keen to save and one day make that journey. ;)
    I love the way SIXTY40 keeps one current and on top of not only event's in South Africa, however event's worldwide with a pletha of info/pics, temporarily satisfying the dreams of one landlocked "fish" longing for a piece of the action, imprisoned in complicated, mitigating circumstances-- :cry:
    IF YOU ARE NOT A SUBSCRIBER TO SIXTY40 BODYBOARDING MAG, I SUGGEST YOU GET ON IT! Your loss if you have not, yet! I look forward to it's quarterly arrival. It's not quantity, IT'S QUALITY and the VARIETY of featured rider's that capture my interest and will keep me a subscriber for year's to come--God willing. ;)


    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    **I WANT TO ADD A VERY, HEARTFELT CONGRATULATIONS TO WEZ AND MARK for their recent accomplishments in OZ at the Shark Island Challenge event and the BSC Avalon event(MMc)--so stoked for you guys and love following your progression in the sport! Very proud of you both! RESPECT :D **
  • Elianderthehateful
    July 2008
    Quote:
    watsup guys, those replies were great and that article is soo true.
    I just wanted to say that that Random Joe oke is probably feelin like such a toss round about now
    Quote:

    Why should he?

    Because he has an opinion that doesn't seem to agree with 99% of the users on this forum?

    Just because everybody on here doesn't agree with him (and I must say some of you don't have the most objective seats in the house) doesn't make his opinion that of a "toss".

    I agree that the mag is awesome etc etc etc etc. but so what? He thinks there's an element of a clique in the mag and industry in general. Leave him be.

    I think that article Spy Dude quoted is actually more relevant to you lot than Random Joe.

    Whether or not Random Joe is correct or not isn't the frikkin point. This is a public forum that has been created to put opinions out there...

    Who gives a shit whether people hide behind anonimity? That's the nature of the beast. You'll always have little 14 year olds swearing at you like they just got dropped off at the nearest harbour, pretending to be capable of inducing serious bodily harm to whomever doesn't agree with their views.

    Besides, what does it matter if you knew his name, address, I.D. number and BoB pin card? What do you want to do to him? Pop a cap in his ass at the next Competition, yo? Would his identity validate his view?

    What if it was Mark McCarthy or AT or Mike Stewart that said that? Would that turn it to gospel?

    Whatever.

    Ok, so now you guys can start directing your flames in my direction and leave the "toss" alone.
  • dcmike
    July 2008
    Okay okay, I'll admit my response was perhaps a bit 'minimalist' but anybody who's met me will know that I get to the point - a spade is a spade and nobody called anyone a toss. Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion, that's mos the point of forums, to encourage debate/discussion. I don't expect people to agree with me - not at first anyway - haha! After that I'll beat them into submission (Kidding!)

    Seriously, I think I say this just about every time I post here, we're trying real hard to be all inclusive and if anyone feels we're missing the mark or being 'cliquey' we want to hear it. It's the only way we can keep improving the mag and have content that you want to read and look at. And if anyone doesn't want to discuss things publicly, just pm me/us

    Schweet like a lemon!
    DC
  • Spy Dude
    July 2008
    Eli -- my posting that article was 2 pronged, so you cant take just however you want it.
    When i first started in this game of shooting bodyboarding i encounted serious neopotism in the overall industry, Saddly Zigzag bodyboarding and Logic were the most aweful examples of this. ZIG zag surfing... pppssshhh i wont even go there cos they just sux balls on everything.

    To date i still havnt submitted a photo to sixty40 print version, but that doesnt mean that i am not gonna submit and i have always tried to shoot everyone, just aslong as you are busting. Saddly there is nothing worce than wasting my time shooting a bunch of kooks who cant bodyboard (but think they can) and blow wave after wave after wave. Personally i dont see 6040 as neopotisitic. For once its a breath of fresh air. The dude are for the first time trying -- WITH A BIG EMPHISIS ON TRYING to give an un baised covereage of the whole country. To exclude the exploits of Spex, McCurry and the Fisherman would be down right stupard and that would be biased too. 6040 so far has a brilliant balance of both pro and underground, if you are more underground than that you are most proberbly dead!

    On the flip side of the coin. We need okes like Random Joe to keep things in check, no point shooting him down in flames cos if it wasnt for joe public opening their mouths, who knows, next thing we know we have slipped into Logic mode and are covering our 5 friends and their aunties. 6040 has got to be careful of that, i loose interest when say for eg i start to see neopotism creep in, even in the editorial. Using a wide range of reporters and photogs minimised that.
    Anyways happy dayz, it just keeps getting better, live and learn kids :)
  • tauriq
    July 2008
    Yo guys

    I agree there with Elianderthehateful. This is a public forum and opinions should be welcome. Even more now that the website has made it into a mag. It would be useful to the 60-40 creaters to know how the public feels about their product, whether praise or critisism, minority or majority. Not just bask in the glory of all the praise, but be able to handle criticism or alternate opinions with integrity. Look at all the big brands out there. They welcome criticism from their target audience. Only using it to strive to become a better brand. As kelly said, you cant please everybody, but that shouldnt stop everybody from expressing their opinions on the mag. So before we criticise rj, lets all think about whether in fact he is providing the 60-40 crew with helpful info for them to build their brand. Sure majority loves the mag, but wouldnt it be useful if the minority are allowed to say their say without being targetted. After all, we as a bodyboarding community are the minority and we should know how hard it is to 'stand up' and be noticed (excuse the pun) without getting ridiculed by our fellow standups.

    Just my 2cents
    T
  • lyle
    July 2008
    i think sixyt40 is on the right track. in past mags you only ever read about CT or KZN guys. (i have mentioned this in a past topic!) in the new sixty40 mag- its only 5 issues old and ive already seen kei spots and shane riley interviewed etc. in past mags this woulda never happened!! and this just makes it more appealing to read for me as for the first time im reading about people ive met and spots ive been too. so from me- big ups to sixty40! plus i dig reading about up and comming ous and dude currently doing well (mark mac) and if he does well the rest of the year i want to hear about him for the rest of the year!! plus i wanna hear if KZN and CT boys are scoring and for me- sixty40 covers all of this so im stoked! :mrgreen:
  • Len at ScienceLen at Science
    July 2008
    as a bodyboarder and being involved in the sport, i would love to say my say. i think the mag is by far the best mag we had up to date. i get my mag 8 days before the rest gets it and by the time that it hit the shelves, i read it from back to front. i think the articles are great(maybe to much words) and informative. the quality of the printing could be a littlebit lighter, but still look like one of the fasion mags. paying R25 for a mag of this quality is a bargain. what i do not want to see is a full page of a riders face, would rather see him in the air on his board, seeing that there is a halve page of the same rider's face 13 pages to the front. (nothing against the rider, but would rather have two surfing photos of him). this is all things that can be corrected. the mag is the best!!!

    what i would love to see, is a profile of the 2007 SA pro winner. Dawid Lee (not one of my team riders) is the most modest riders and he dances with the waves like Fred Astair (spy dude and mike dc will know who Fred were). please put something about him, this is his year of being SA Pro champ.

    thanks Ian, samuel, mike and the everybody involved
  • Spy Dude
    July 2008
    I dig Fred Astaire, i actually have a MP3 disk of him in my car... also dig the Fred/sex pistols remix of "I did it my way"
  • Elianderthehateful
    July 2008
    Since we are now on the topic of epic music (LOL!!!) YOU GUYS HAVE TO GET YOUR HANDS ON Nine Inch Nails' Ghosts I - IV album!!!!

    That album has 36 of the most intense music on EVER!! And some of them were just hand-picked for surf/bb vids!!!!!

    It costs $5 to download from NIN's official website! Digital releases RULE!!!!!!!!!
  • Spy Dude
    July 2008
    mmm got that in the car too 8)
  • ChilternburtChilternburt
    July 2008
    yip i have that as well.. quality tunes...
    Also check out a SA band, Bloodline LTD...
    they owning it..

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XbD3TUEAh1Y
  • KellyKelly
    July 2008
    I'm going to re-affirm this point made by DC ... as sometimes guys don't read the full thread.
    dcmike wrote:
    Seriously, I think I say this just about every time I post here, we're trying real hard to be all inclusive and if anyone feels we're missing the mark or being 'cliquey' we want to hear it. It's the only way we can keep improving the mag and have content that you want to read and look at. And if anyone doesn't want to discuss things publicly, just pm me/us

    Sift through the thread and there are some very valid points for both us and for any riders trying to get into the mags.

    Keep the feedback coming ...
  • bboard1
    July 2008
    Howzit okes.
    Let me just appologise cause i realise that my comment was off sides. Not making excuses though.
    No bad feelings.
  • dcmike
    July 2008
    Haha! You and me both Bboard1 !
    RJ - no comments?
  • krukru
    July 2008
    hahahahahaha,
    ok guys,
    a few valid points were made and as everyone says you can't make everyone happy.
    We have 1 policy at the magazine and that is that the best shot makes the mag. Believe me, this is always easier said than done and we have many internal debates because the fact of the matter is that some pro's work harder than others.
    The man in question, and yes,I am going to name him, Sacha Specker, is one of the most photogenic people in the water, couple that with an excellent work ethic (Yes, that means tracking swells, checking weather forecasts, organising with photogs and then getting the job done when the swell hits) and you have a backlog of epic images.
    For all aspiring groms out there, this is how you get the job done and from our side we will reward it accordingly in line with our policy of best shot makes the mag.
    Good times
  • craigtrilivascraigtrilivas
    July 2008
    Goota agree with Kru there fully.
    Spex is the opitomy of professional in everyway.
    From training to eating healthy to basically everything.

    Its like Jim Morrison said to Wayne in his dream- if u book them they will come....
    Well not really but i just wanted to say that LOL!!!

    But im sure u get wat i mean, hopefully :wink:
  • Spy Dude
    July 2008
    Fully Kru. I worked with an Aussie Pro surfer a few years ago and i hang (when he is in town) allot with a current ASP surfer. These okes are on it, when not competeing they are ones organsising photoshoots, be it for articles or for advertising use on behalf of their sponsors.
    The Aussie organsied everything before he even landed here.
    Me (on photos) and i had to organise 1 local surfer to join us on the trip (who got paid for his time too nogal), organsied pages in a magazine and the mag flew him and the 2 reporters covering the story out here. He organsied a Rent a car sothat i didnt have to mission in my own car. Food everyday. Petrol, the friggin works. He even went so far as to organsie a trip to mozambique but i couldnt go as it was last minute and i had other work commitments.

    Point is you cant go down to the beach and catch a few waves and hope a photog is there and shoots your lame roll and then hope you get in the mag. A watershoot is hard as you have to actually work with the photog in the water, you cant go catch a wave 50m away from him and expect a shot, allot of the time it you who is taking it on the head to get the shot. The photog has enough to worry about, light, currents, someone riding over him, sharks etc.

    Spex is pure joy to work with, he busts, he oozes style and he is a real nice guy to boot and also i rekon on of the top ambasadors to our sport. He has time for everyone and that goes a long way.

    Happy Dayz.

  • July 2008
    Spex for president....or should that be Kru?

    hmmmm wait! Spex for SA president, Kru for ZImbabwe president?

    Voting opens shortly....hahaha

    ja for sure, spex is the most decent down to earth geniune guy around, great to paddle with, shoot with, pull pranks with you name it...and yes he is ontop of his game for sure!! well dont know what facial hair he has growing now, but yes. He is out there making things happen and personally one of my favourite boogers to shoot, hang out with etc. top guy and thats why he gets the shots, you ride hard, dont hold back and become friends with the photogs also, not to suck up to them for their shots....but because they are spending time out the water getting you the shots, so just be open and cool and honest....thats all its takes.

    but yeah as the Kru says totally agree for the groms!! push yourselves.... bite off more then you can chew, then chew it!!
  • Randomjoe
    July 2008
    Yo thanks for all who reply'd!
    Seems like i treded some sensitive water, but sometimes its beter say'n your say and finding the right answers and comments.
    doing so you need to be able to take some negative remarks too, but all in good respect.
    Thanks to all commenting on the topic, len thanks for insight you have been around for a while now, and trust your judgement to be pure, also thanks gareth, Elianderthehateful, dc and the rest of the crew.

    again sorry if it got to personal.

    and ya Kru your mag is the best!! also Love it mate! you really work your arrrrrses of for us. and we see it....

    also thanks for seporting the olkes from hawaii.

    God bless
  • craigtrilivascraigtrilivas
    July 2008
    I really think that to keep the stoke within the community that the mag could maybe dedicate 1 pg to the okes who arent pro etc...
    U know like maybe guys could send in what they think r good pics of themselves or whatever and the crew could scrutinise and sift thru them and include say between 5-10?

    Its kinda like in ( and i shudder when i utter the name ) zigzag ( note no capitals :wink: ) where they have a little flowlink kinda thing goin on of the joes out there that buy and love the mag.

    I just feel that, although the mag is a frikkin gem itself and gives all us boogers heaps of value and radness, that it would just add & give more overall value to the reader.
    I pretty darn sure okes would be scratching together money left right and centre to buy the mags if they knew there was a chance that they could be in it u know?

    Just another thought from an otherwise wierdo.
    I know there are issues with ads and bills and things like that to consider, but if it was even just taken into thought i think that it would add alot to the end users stoke, passion and dedication.

    Enjoy the swell this weekend boys and keep it cracking to all :D
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