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Gone are the days...

  • that NINJA kid
    February 2008
    Writing this makes me feel like an old ballie at the ripe young age of 23.
    A lunch-time adventure with a stand-up in my office has led to sadness and almost disbelief on my part. In a quest to pick up a leash after snapping his in the bowl yesterday it took us five surf-shops to find a leash, or 4 if you count the shop that tried to sell him a 10 foot long-board leash.

    Remember when the smallest of surf-shops (which wouldn’t be recognized as such these days) catered for surf-supplies first? These grimy little shops were run by surfers for surfers and catered for what you needed before what you wanted. (think leashes, wax, boardies, stand-up planks and MAYBE a few bodyboards) They also had iconic names referring to common surf-fantasies and videos.

    Remember when these shops were staffed by the best local rippers of every field who’d work there for a chilled job with the possibility of time off if it was cranking? They could tell you what worked and what didn’t, what was the latest useless gimmick and what you really needed? These cats were chilled, friendly and often bare-foot?

    Remember when surf-shops had worn-out VHS’s behind the counter of all your favourite videos which were always playing non-stop and no one cared if you stood for 40 minutes watching and didn’t buy anything, even if you were from out of town and stopping in for a look?


    I do and it makes me so bummed that this net-work of chilled community-based shops seem to be disappearing or selling out and buying in to the boutique-megastore culture of fake bamboo paneling for that authentic island-look.
    Your nearest surf-store has a wall of bikini’s for your girl to peruse, a wall of pristine sneakers starting at a grand a pop, including in-house designs you’d never wear aimed at 30-something yuppies looking for a life-style accessory and stands of caps, sunnies and watches with branding plastered all over them but can’t manage more than one stock variety of bodyboarding leash? A 4mm wrist leash with no swivels and more than likely in 1 colour too?
    Staffed by some tan-less teenager in Puma slip-ons, Levi’s jeans and so much gel you pray he never actually gets in the sea for fear of the chemical fall-out that would accompany the event.

    Before you jump in with your favourite store, I’m not denying they exist, but from the community feeling of every store I went in to when I was a kid there precious few left who know what we want, never mind what we need. We all know who they are and yes we do support them and the brands we know value us as a community all we can, we have to in the desperate hope that they won’t go the same route... but it doesn’t make it less sad.

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  • ChilternburtChilternburt
    February 2008
    Bro you hit the nail right on the head...
    i remember growing up in Durban, going into Surf Zone or Victory seeing Gigs and Deon selling everything a surfer / bodyboarder could need...
    after i finished school i scored the dream job of working for Island Style as their bodyboarder, and worked in the hardcore Pickering Street store ( yes the one behind the wheel with the hand logo) for 4.5 years... and our stores, plus every one of our competitors, be it Roman, Deon or Gigs had ACTUAL surfers / bodyboarders or beach girls working in there stores...
    Fast forward to now, obviously i live in London so when i go home on holiday i love to pop in and visit... now i know times have changed and for surf stores to do well they need to be in malls like Gateway and the Pavilion but i went into just about every store and only 1 person even looked like a surfer... the rest had probably never felt the stoke of riding a wave or getting barreled and thats sad...
    and like you mentioned, only a select few even had the basics like leashes and wax and fins...
    personally i think it all changed with the launch of Quiksilver's boardrider stores... because although they look great, they are basically clothing stores and hardly any hardware is sold...
    but hey thats only my 2 cents...
  • that NINJA kid
    February 2008
    Dude, it's too true, we went through Stanford Hill Rd now looking for that leash, it's pretty much Durban's surf-district with all the major-players offices and wholesale/factory stores etc and no one in any of them looked like they had ever surfed...

    The one store that was a breath of fresh air was GEE FORCE SURF which is a shaping company first which stocks Oneill stuff so I could smell resin etc and they were the only place in the whole Rd with leashes?!?!
    I don't know if you know any cats who surf without leashes that much but I don't...

    I'm not a big fan of generalising although it sounds it in what I've written (for effect)... Board-riders Clubs', Bong concept stores and I'd hate to say it dude but even the Island Style concept store out at Gateway seem to be staffed by a majority of non-waveriders who can't tell you whats what if they have what it is you're looking for...

    And Pickering Street is HAAAAARDCORE, I didn't even know there was a store down there, it's all heavy ghetto now.
  • ChilternburtChilternburt
    February 2008
    yip i totally know what you mean about the concept stores... except the indian lady at the Bong store in Gateway, Maggie is a legend and was my boss @ Island Style... promise she could tell you more about leashes and surfboards than most surfers... but yea even the Island Style store is a sham...
    Our Pickering street store was on the border of gettoville and many a person braved there way there but we did have the BEST selection of skateboards..and we had a half pipe out back which the ES team skated in 411 issue 30 on their SA tour.. plus we had EVERY Morey, including the Launch Vehicle and just about every Custom X and Reopaipo when Ben Holland was riding for them...
    we had the bare minimum on clothing but every leash, wax, boardbag and packpack... proper hard core and Rob and I surfed every morning and evening after work and partied till we dropped like true surfers... many an all nighter was pulled and straight to work.. with each of us covering for the other while he slept in a mini mal cover hidden in the back store room...
  • craigtrilivascraigtrilivas
    February 2008
    Oh snap this does make me feel old!!!
    I remember the pickering store.
    And that was NEW when i last was there LOL!!!!

    I used to skate the ramp at the back with the OG skate crew back when George van Blerk was a lil pikinini LOL!!!!
    Andrew Morck and Mike Suttcliff.
    Good times 4 sure.

    I used to chillax at surf obsession alot cos they always had the underground tapes playing hahahaha!!!
    Remember ocean fire???
    Todd de Graaf my son!!!!
    Awsome stuff.

    Yeah its so wack how people who kno nothing about the tools we use try to sell them to u.
    And thos Super Mall megastores just make me feel so uncomfortable when i go in there.
    Im like "jeez i feel a bit underdressed but shouldnt cos im in a frikkin surfstore and it should be the MOST chilled store here!!!"
    And ur so right ,the okes r wearing the latest puma shoes,frikkin flared jeans from guess,a tight t-shirt and fake armani sunnies inside!!!

    I only support stores that know their stuff,know me as a rugular customer and know how to treat us right.
    All those other stores can go fish.
    And the whole thing of factory seven,ATD,Rossi and the like make things so much cooler for me as theyr not the merchants of cool out to bloodsuck ur monies with needless crap that is like soooo hot right now.
    Theyr real and know wats really going on.
    Can anybody remember that movement called "NOW"?
    Darrel Nelson got us all together the one day back in like 96 and told us how we should start supporting the companies who put back into our sport.
    And we did,and they started to notice i think.

    Stay kiff.
  • SebSeb
    February 2008
    its so true... when i walk into most surf shops they dnt hav any bodyboarding equipment. The staff dnt no wat ther talkin about and the atmosphere is hostile. Surf shops should b a place wer wave riders can get a job to save up 4 that trip overseas these days its almost imposible to even get a job at 1. i only no of one shop here in sa that employes bodyboarders...that actually bodyboard and no wat they r talkin bout.. But even in this shop its a mission to find wat im lookin 4 ... its a bummer.. factory7 shud set up a actual store :P
  • that NINJA kid
    February 2008
    All too true!
    You'd never walk in to the board-riders club in just boardies, you couldn't even get in to the shopping centre nowadays without a security guard telling you to put your shirt on...

    The only good experience I've had with any fancy stores is when they've cleared stock with the corporate-sale mind-set and picked up a cool board for R900!

    I don't even understand how you guys must feel because yes I remember the underground tapes and yes I remember Todd De Graaf but nothing much more specific than that...

    With support the brands that support you being pushed at us from every angle I feel like I'd be too much if I told kids in Volkak shorts to wake up so what do you do, I just don't think I'm any kind of preacher...
  • ChilternburtChilternburt
    February 2008
    Ive posted this here before but if you wanna check out the good old dayz of North Beach, complete with young versions of Jamie King, Pearman and co.. check my vid on YouTube
    the opening song is by Jamie King himself, called These are the days and sums up those memories perfectly... it also has a brief couple shots of me behind the counter of Island Style Pickering street...hehehe

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=w89pE8LmCPM
  • that NINJA kid
    February 2008
    Soooo bummed, youtube is blocked in my office...
  • craigtrilivascraigtrilivas
    February 2008
    Awsome boet!!!
    Those definately were the days man.
    Remember when Macca & Jay Reale came down?

    I grew up with Jamie bro!!!
    Still keep contact allbeit too little.
    Still cant believe he's rockin it hey :D
    The days of eye jackets and catfish hahaha!!!
    Come to think of it Kevin Pearman still owes me money for sunnies i gave him!!!

    I miss that beachfront so much,but the way it used to be,not wat it is now.
    I'll never forget those times.

    Sick vid brother. :D
  • ChilternburtChilternburt
    February 2008
    Thanks Craig, yea those were the days.. all that stuff will never be the same again...
    I see Jamie on a regular basis, if he's not coming to my house for free Mac Support then we are either propping up bars in London or i try go watch 1 of his gigs each month... good to have home grown support...
    Yea i remember Jay and Vicki and Macca... and Lanson, and Mike Stewart, when he surfed NB in the Dairymaid compo....
    I had more footage of Ross and co from the 1st No Friends visit but the vid was more about my mates so didnt include it in the final edit...

    well glad you enjoyed it...
  • Marthinus
    February 2008
    that NINJA kid wrote:
    Writing this makes me feel like an old ballie at the ripe young age of 23.
    A lunch-time adventure with a stand-up in my office has led to sadness and almost disbelief on my part. In a quest to pick up a leash after snapping his in the bowl yesterday it took us five surf-shops to find a leash, or 4 if you count the shop that tried to sell him a 10 foot long-board leash.

    Remember when the smallest of surf-shops (which wouldn’t be recognized as such these days) catered for surf-supplies first? These grimy little shops were run by surfers for surfers and catered for what you needed before what you wanted. (think leashes, wax, boardies, stand-up planks and MAYBE a few bodyboards) They also had iconic names referring to common surf-fantasies and videos.

    Remember when these shops were staffed by the best local rippers of every field who’d work there for a chilled job with the possibility of time off if it was cranking? They could tell you what worked and what didn’t, what was the latest useless gimmick and what you really needed? These cats were chilled, friendly and often bare-foot?
    Remember when surf-shops had worn-out VHS’s behind the counter of all your favourite videos which were always playing non-stop and no one cared if you stood for 40 minutes watching and didn’t buy anything, even if you were from out of town and stopping in for a look?


    I do and it makes me so bummed that this net-work of chilled community-based shops seem to be disappearing or selling out and buying in to the boutique-megastore culture of fake bamboo paneling for that authentic island-look.
    Your nearest surf-store has a wall of bikini’s for your girl to peruse, a wall of pristine sneakers starting at a grand a pop, including in-house designs you’d never wear aimed at 30-something yuppies looking for a life-style accessory and stands of caps, sunnies and watches with branding plastered all over them but can’t manage more than one stock variety of bodyboarding leash? A 4mm wrist leash with no swivels and more than likely in 1 colour too?
    Staffed by some tan-less teenager in Puma slip-ons, Levi’s jeans and so much gel you pray he never actually gets in the sea for fear of the chemical fall-out that would accompany the event.

    Before you jump in with your favourite store, I’m not denying they exist, but from the community feeling of every store I went in to when I was a kid there precious few left who know what we want, never mind what we need. We all know who they are and yes we do support them and the brands we know value us as a community all we can, we have to in the desperate hope that they won’t go the same route... but it doesn’t make it less sad.

    So so true man!

    Wow those where they days hey!

    In Hermanus we had a surf shop, Sport n Surf, that late became know as Newdeal that was owned and managed by one of the local DK rippers Nic Morkel.
    This shop was where it was all at since the time I became involved with bodyboarding, 8 or 9 years ago, Sport n Surf was probably going since the mid nineties. If anyone needed anything Newdeal was the place to go.You could walk in any given moment and there would be at least three of they local boys chilling out, having a bite to eat from the fast-food outlet near by or just checking out the latest No Friends video.

    So as a grom of not even 10 years old, this was the place where i bought my first board from, these older locals were our (us groms') heroes.

    The whole vibe that came with being a bodyboarder, the bodyboarding industry, was so much different back then, think the early No Friends vids, the old South African Bodyboarding Magazine, Andre winning the world title at the ripe age of 17, bodyboarding seemed so much more 'hardcore' if you like, back in those days.

    As a grom we where 'initiated' on a almost daily basis, 'dopping' the older local's wetsuits, getting rats tailed, being ordered to do what ever the older locals commanded and then there was of course 'stripping', which initialled running across the beach naked on a packed day, finding a flower of specific colour and then giving it to the first female you see, only to come back to find that your clothes are no longer where you took them off. In the line up there was also no chance of getting one of the better waves if there was an older local in range that was able to catch it.
    All the above was done so that us groms could gain respect for older guys, they guys that where doing this to us went though exactly the same when they were groms.

    Fast forward to 2008 and one will notice a colossal change.. Kids are far too spoilt, have no respect for older guys ("The King" being a prime example) because no disciplinary action is taken any more, so much as lay a finger on little Johnny and you got mommy screaming down your throat threatening legal action. When i was a grom if we so much as thought of complaining or calling mommy from the beach saying older guys are bullying us there would be serious consequences to face and the chances of ever being allowed back at beach again where slim to none.

    I think these days bodyboarding as a whole is going in the whole ‘goodie goodie’ direction and trying to make the sport more friendly and accessible to every body. - not that there’s anything wrong with that.


    Okay towards the end I started steering off topic a little, but i still think its relevant.

    That's my 2cents
  • JdV
    February 2008
    The chain surf stores with idiots behind the counter can have their bonuses..I remember as a 12 year old grom scoring a brand new 'Custom X' Quest for R600 from QBC, coz it had the wrong price tag and there was a 50% sale on..that would never have happened if the sales people had known what was going on!
  • ElementreeElementree
    February 2008
    Phat topic...

    Well written Ninja...it would have made for a good article!

    Haven't had a chance to read all the replies...cos i'm super rushed, but i think that the feeling amongst all of us is mutual.

    I actually went around to all the surf stores in a shopping mall recently asking for wax...out of about 5 shops none had any.

    I grew up in Table View, hanging out at Surf Energy - James Brawn, Rob Pete, Tim o' Shea, Steve Polinski...those were the days...

    Great topic!
  • ChilternburtChilternburt
    February 2008
    The funny thing is, i was actually going to write an article / letter to Sixty40 and ZigZag mag along theses lines after my recent trip home... was so sad about the state of the stores.....but props to Ninjakid for beating me to it...
  • rickyrabbott
    February 2008
    surf energy table view back in day ya.... decent cash discounts on anything & everything. allways a local on hand to help and chirp about the dayz swellz. and just a quick stop in for those waxes and leashes.
    now YOU got to go to that store in bayside where all you can buy is a (overprised)kite surfing kit and a f"£$ng mountain board??? or shit clothes.
    i could be wrong aint been there for 2 years but i dont think things would have changed by the reaction of this topic from the guys back home.(sa)
    So we want body boarding to progress and become available to all ect ect ect but we also want to have that personal touch for the community that take part ???? hard one hey!! maybe we should get mcdonalds to stock up on wax and leashed and a bit of the turbo cabage and things well be sorted.pull in for a burger aswell
    YOU NOW WHAT I MEAN?


    (NOW YOU GOT TO ORDER ON LINE TWO WEEKS BEFOR YOU GO FOR A SURF)

    london under my umbrella
  • lyle
    February 2008
    most surf store are actually clothing stores with surf brands that are freaken expensive because they are in malls!!! in EL we only have have one proper surf shop, and boy, he stocks everything, absolutely everything. problem is, because he is the only store here he is freakin expensive!!!! buts thats why we have factory7! support em!
  • that NINJA kid
    February 2008
    I'm glad everyone agrees and thanks for the compliment Elementree...

    I was just reading everyone elses comments and everyone's got their own points...

    I just think it's crazy, especially for the very few lighties who still do mission and there are some, I know kids like myself who spent and are spending their highschool years on trains, in busses and taxis missioning to and from the beach to outer-suburb areas like Pinetown.
    Who now, if they snap a leash can't walk in to X_X_X_X Surf-shop and just get a leash on credit cos the guys know them well enough, now they have to beg their parents to get them to some mall with a "surf" shop and pray all the way they have something even remotely near what they want or need with-out over-charging.

    Who's getting their kids in to surfing or bodyboarding as a healthy lifestyle with the cold-shoulder attitude everyones mentioning from big-shops? No one ever likes sounding stupid and as a grown human being, what parent is gonna go in to one of these shops and ask the questions?
    And if they do will they get anything worthwhile or some 3 year old Manta Planet that's been standing on it's bat-tail behind a cupboard in the store-room, with a reverse rocker?

    They're killing the stoke before it's out there!
  • Len at ScienceLen at Science
    February 2008
    we do have a guy in east london called Andy Austen who also sell reef wetsuits and science bodyboards. he works from his house and we supply him because of the surfshops owner's bad attitude. Andy's no is 0824540179. phone him he is a legend.
  • lyle
    February 2008
    Quote:
    Who's getting their kids in to surfing or bodyboarding as a healthy lifestyle with the cold-shoulder attitude everyones mentioning from big-shops? No one ever likes sounding stupid and as a grown human being, what parent is gonna go in to one of these shops and ask the questions?
    And if they do will they get anything worthwhile or some 3 year old Manta Planet that's been standing on it's bat-tail behind a cupboard in the store-room, with a reverse rocker?

    They're killing the stoke before it's out there!

    yeah man, i agree. went on a trip to jbay last month. saw a ms1 for R2000. so on my way home to EL i stoped in PE, they usually have cheaper boards. well the one store i walked into in greenacres has 4/5 chicks behind the counter, they know absolutely nothing about surfing apperel and the boards (scott and some other make) were sooooo damaged i would have thought it was second hand trash. they were stored on wooden racks and were torn in the decks. they were really stuffed!!! in worse condition than my 5 year old rossi!!

    anyway.... i did find a ms1 for R1800. but i decided to stick with custom rossi boards instead.
  • Len at ScienceLen at Science
    February 2008
    hi kyle

    eisssh!!!!????
  • Len at ScienceLen at Science
    February 2008
    i mean Lyle

    eissschhhh???!!!
  • craigtrilivascraigtrilivas
    February 2008
    werd!!!
    me and my buddy tyrone nattrass used to mission from paradise valley in pinetown to the beach every weekend!!!
    If we snapt a leash we could get one no sweat in those days.
    those were the missions and the days when people would actually pick up a hiker.
    When i got back from London in 2002 havin left in 2001(was there for exactly 1 yr) i got a new board and tried to hitch a ride over kloof nek into camps bay.

    Absolutely no dice.
    No1 would gimme a ride!!!
    But a yr b4 that i would only have to wait lie 5 mins!!!

    I ended up walking the whole way with my thumb out to no avail.

    off the topic,sorry
    This coffee has me vibin :shock:
  • ChilternburtChilternburt
    February 2008
    ROFL... the reason no one would give you a ride is cause you werent with Nattrass... hehehe,

    I know Tyrone well, saw his a couple weeks ago at Susan's birthday...

    ** sorry totally off topic..
  • craigtrilivascraigtrilivas
    February 2008
    hahahahahaha!!
    ja maybe hey.
    Ja him and Warren used to slay chicks LOL.

    I looked for that oke for so long when i left Durbs then finally found his wife Susan and she linked me to him.
    Saw Moyle in October.
    Hasnt changed at all :D

    Dood I must know u then maybe?
    I lived in the town they call pine for quite sum time.
    U ever go to Malaki's and the cold room etc...
    Oh snap and Private Universe in Westville hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

    Damn son. :!:
  • ChilternburtChilternburt
    February 2008
    lol bro yea him and Moyle were machines... but look at them now, ty is married and moyle got engaged the other day...

    yea i went to malaki's, cold room, private universe and i was a barman @ Pharside for a while, and like i said previously i worked at Island Style and used to hang at North on the Weekends..
  • bboard1
    February 2008
    Wassup oes back on topic.
    I was at north beach a couple weeks ago with a mate and he snapped his board so we went to the new pier surf shop and guess what? NO LEASHES or fin savers. I was bleek hey and all the other surfshops are a long trap from the beach. I also live in Kloof and i'm 17. I tried hitching once but it didn't happen and almost got hit by a taxi.

    If your looking for a decent surf shop try Victory Surf on Old Fort road. There's a lakka oke behind the counter who bodyboards at farbowl and he knows what he's talking about and is willing to help. The owner is also a north beach local (Stand Up). they also have the vids playing in the shop so it's a pretty cool vibe. I even got a free DVD when i bought a pair of churchills for a mate. I'll definately go back there.
    Check it out
  • craigtrilivascraigtrilivas
    February 2008
    Ja i must say even tho ol Dion is a heavy businessman,his shop has NEVER let me down.
    Everytime i hav been there they hav too many boards to choose from actually.
    Even good 2nd hand ones for u if u want.

    When i was down from Ape town a couple yrs back the okes rapped to me for like an hour b4 i even made up my mind.
    I was looking for a manta pirahna.
    One of the best boards i hav ever ridden.

    Shops need that wisdom to draw customers back.
    We would all obviously rather buy sumthin from a guy who is always clued up on the latest tech and watnot and understand the dynamics of fluid mechanics wouldnt we?

    Not from sum raver who is werking there to scrape up enuff doh for his next hard night on the dancfloor to trip off his pip!!!!
    Only to come back the next day and convince u to buy this one cos its the most expensive therefore its the best and that u cant go wrong even tho its meant for Mavericks and u surf 101 foamies and go straight.

    Dood!!!
    Come now.

    Damn Warrens engaged???
    I met that blonde girl he was dating a few months ago.
    Same one?

    Jislaaikit.
    :D
  • ChilternburtChilternburt
    February 2008
    yea i wont lie, Deon knows his stuff, hence why he now drives a porsche and spends his time doing track days... but he is the king saleman, i've walked there from Island Style, when we had our store 3 away from his in Old Fort Road, and i've nearly been convinced to buy stuff and i was only visiting leo...

    Same doll as far as i know for Warren..
  • craigtrilivascraigtrilivas
    February 2008
    My mate Adrian fields used to be partners with him.
    They had a shop here called Ocean2Ocean.
    Cool store but like many,succumbe to heavy competition and other industry related problems.

    Miss that place man.
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