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  • bobster
    September 2004
    Any one out there got some good advice on what camera to get for in & out water shots,what size lenses ,etc ?
    Any advice would be welcome.Coolrunnings til den..

    Bobster

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  • Greg Chapman
    September 2004
    You looking at digital or film--
    more info mail me at [email protected] be happy to help out were possible
  • KellyKelly
    September 2004
    Quote:
    more info mail me at [email protected]

    Guys - I would appreciate if you could you please keep your discussions on the forum? In that way you are sharing your advice with more than just one person.
  • Spy Dude
    September 2004
    Hey dude
    Ok basically you got digital and film....choose
    then its camera make, here there are basically two choices..Canon or Nikon.
    Lenses... tough one, but if you are learning the basics, most basic entry level SLR's come with a std 28-80 ml zoom lens and a std 75 -300 ml lense ( iam speaking canon as i know nothing regarding Nikon)
    I would say invest in lenses as it them that make photos perfect.
    The sigma 500ml is a great lense to learn on but terrible as a professional lense, although i know Craig from Logic will dissagree with me on this.
    Look at the EOS 300D (digital) to start with or the same in Film Even old school EOS 500, but these day you can pick up a EOS 1n for under R4000 second hand, and thats a top of the line pro rig.
    Ha haha all this coming from a photographer who doesnt have a camera.
    EOS 10D!!!! wicked and soon to be released EOS 20D...wickeder.
  • Greg Chapman
    September 2004
    the Nikon D70 (digital) is slightly better than the EOS 300D but it is a choice of what system u want to by into. Also with these mid range digital SLR's you get a cropping factor of 1.6x which means the focal length increases by 1.6 but the depth of field remains unchanged..
    Spy Dude, are you referring to the sigma 170-500 APO mm or the 500mm EX HSM prime lens--the 170-500mm is a horrid lens if u want to get razor sharp images also you need to stop the lens down to f8
    Idealy if you buy a canon body (SLR) keep to canon lenses (or nikon body with nikon lenses)

    if u are new to photography i would suggest a canon EOS 300V with a 75-300mm and 28-90mm and soon as u get an idea what is going on you can upgrade
    btw will be selling a 75-300 USM with image Stabilser in a few moths
    also if u go the film root Fuji superia 400 is a great film to start of with
    laterz
    Chappy
  • bobster
    September 2004
    Thanx for the info ,Im looking at getting digital ,what are your views on digital video with still shot or are they more just hype?
    Look forward to hearing from you ,coolrunnings til den...

    Bobster
  • KellyKelly
    September 2004
    Frame grabs off video are not great and this is because, in most cases, the recording is done using interlaced frames - the quality may look great on TV but when you grab a frame it appears to lose quality and, from what I understand, this is because a frame grab is made up of two interlaced frames - because the two frames are shot at differing points in time, you are going to have the blurring.

    There is, however, new technology around - I haven't looked into this fully and have only just done a quick look around the web for info on the subject - but some of the camcorders around are carrying a new feature, known as Frame Movie Mode (Canon) or Progressive Scan (Sony) - this mode captures 30 non-interlaced frames per second, rather than the 60 interlaced frames of standard mode on these camcorders. Playing back footage shot in Frame Movie Mode/Progressive may not appear entirely smooth - something which might be quite noticeable shooting bodyboarding I imagine, however, the mode is intended to have a cinematic feel to it (a slight flicker), with the added intention that quality still images can be obtained from it for either web/print use. Then whether or not 1/30 of a second is fast enough to record action shots which are sharp enough --- maybe someone can help out with that? The fact, however, would be that it would have to be way better than standard frame grabs and then what are you wanting to do with these frame grabs? For the web at least, the resolution will most likely be more than ample.

    I've only really had a look at info quickly on Canon & Sony which in my mind are the two of the leading camcorder manufacturers - a JVC vs Sony angle is covered in the third link below, it appears at least the camcorder mentioned in the article does not record interlaced video.

    For the video quality itself, Interlaced looks better on interlaced display e.g. TV, Progressive looks better on a progressive display e.g. projector.

    Most of the info I got from the following pages:

    http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/articles/article1.htm
    http://www.macspecialist.com:16080/canon/gl2/index.php
    http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/So ... corder.htm

    Prices - the models I was looking at are some of the newer 3CCD models available - prices are quite steep and if you're looking at a water housing then you are talking some serious bucks. (Code - I know you were looking at some prices, so if you feel like sharing)

    Did a bit of educating myself tonight, so hopefully some of this is also some help to you.
  • bobster
    September 2004
    Tanx Kelly

    All the help is good ,thanks for the links will check them out later.Im going down to check out some cameras will let you know how I get on .
    Until den coolrunnings..

    Bobster
    This site is da BOMB
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